Jul 11, 2012 10:15
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Russian term

вопрос о написании типов юридических лиц (напр. ОАО, ЗАО, ООО)

Russian to English Law/Patents Law (general)
Мой вопрос касается названий основных типов юридических лиц, таких как ОАО, ЗАО, ООО и т.д. Переводя тексты на английский язык, пишутся ли такие сокращения перед или после конкретного названия компании. Зараннее спасибо!
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Jul 11, 2012 21:44: Natalie changed "Term asked" from "ОАО, ЗАО, ООО " to "вопрос о написании типов юридических лиц (напр. ОАО, ЗАО, ООО)"

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Non-PRO (2): rns, Andrey Belousov (X)

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Proposed translations

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Russian term (edited): ОАО, ЗАО, ООО
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после

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Peer comment(s):

agree Oleg Lozinskiy
6 mins
Tnx
agree enrulegal (X)
34 mins
Tnx
agree Nikolai Muraviev
40 mins
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agree Elina Semykina : пишу после, через запятую - XXX, LLC
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agree Judith Hehir
11 hrs
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Russian term (edited): ОАО, ЗАО, ООО

Ltd./LLC, JSC and PLC

These are the most common abbreviations to be placed after the name of the company;
Limited (liability company) - Ltd./LLC
Joint stock company - JSC
Public limited company - PLC
Peer comment(s):

agree Nikolai Muraviev
37 mins
Спасибо!
agree rns
55 mins
Спасибо!
agree Ravindra Godbole
2 hrs
Thank you!
disagree Piotrnikitin : It is quite unprofessional to translate legal company forms. Basically, it is quivalent to translating personal names and rendering "Ivan" as "John". If you are in the habit of "translating" ZAO as JSC etc, please stop (see Mark's comment below)
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Russian term (edited): ОАО, ЗАО, ООО

после названия компании

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Russian term (edited): ОАО, ЗАО, ООО

в основном перед названием, но возможен и вариант после

Из того, что я видела, как правило, эти обозначения предшествуют названию компании (при этом сами они могут быть переданы как, например, OAO или OJSC - выбор варианта зависит от "договоренности", т.е. того, что принято в определенном финансовом учреждении (например, на конкретной бирже), и ряда других моментов.

Привожу простую ссылку результатов из "Гугла", по которой видно, что авторитетными источниками используются оба варианта.

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Note added at 19 mins (2012-07-11 10:34:20 GMT)
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Еще посмотрела, как название "Газпрома" фигурирует в его финансовой отчетностит по МСФО, предоставляемой инвесторам и на биржи: ОАО перед названием (отчетность - на его сайте).
Peer comment(s):

agree Piotrnikitin
1 day 4 hrs
Спасибо!
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Russian term (edited): ОАО, ЗАО, ООО

OAO, ZAO, OOO as they appear in the original, before the name

When translating from any language, such acronyms (as the names of the companies themselves) are transcribed as they appear in the original. When I translate "Volkswagen AG" from German, I write just that, and not "Volkswagen Ltd/JSC/any other acronym". The same applies to the Dutch "b.v.", French "AS" and any other designations of company type.
Why Russian translation should be different is a mystery to me.
How would "Barclays Bank Ltd" be translated into Russian? It would be transcribed as it is, certainly not 'translated' into "OAO Банка 'Барклиз'".
As regards "JSC", this is 'translationese' . Very few native English speakers know what a 'joint stock company' is (it means a company limited by shares), let alone 'JSC'. The only reason this antiquated term is so widely used in translation from Russian (and other former Eastern Bloc languages) is because Karl Marx thought they were the best thing since sliced bread (he believed them as 'progressive' because workers could buy shares in them and control how they operated).

See also Peter Skipp's comment on the link below.
Peer comment(s):

agree Tanami
2 hrs
agree iacta alea est : Absolutely
4 hrs
agree Marie_D
23 hrs
agree Piotrnikitin
1 day 1 hr
agree Tom Fennell : Amen!
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