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Spanish term
observación de fondo u observación de oficio
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright
Legislation
This is legislation on registering industrial property
I am in the section on Notices and the whole sentence is:
La notificación de la oposición, de la observación de fondo u observación de oficio a la solicitud de registro de signos distintivos se efectuará por carta certificada expedida al domicilio indicado por el solicitante en el expediente.
There are no further references to these observaciones.
My best guess is that an observacion the fondo is a comment made on the merits of the request and an observacion de oficio is a comment due to the application not complying with some formality, but I'm not sure and even if I'm right I'm unsure on how to translate this without turning it into a mouthful
I am in the section on Notices and the whole sentence is:
La notificación de la oposición, de la observación de fondo u observación de oficio a la solicitud de registro de signos distintivos se efectuará por carta certificada expedida al domicilio indicado por el solicitante en el expediente.
There are no further references to these observaciones.
My best guess is that an observacion the fondo is a comment made on the merits of the request and an observacion de oficio is a comment due to the application not complying with some formality, but I'm not sure and even if I'm right I'm unsure on how to translate this without turning it into a mouthful
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substantive objection or official objection
These are the terms I'd use. If I'm not mistaken, this refers to Chile; this precise turn of phrase occurs in the proposed text of Chile's new intellectual property law (section 8).
http://www.derechomarcario.cl/nueva ley/Borrador Minecon-INA...
http://web.ua.es/es/contratos-id/documentos/ip-tango/compara...
"Observación" means, I think, a comment on a defect: an objection. I have met it in this sense before, particularly in Latin American official documents. "Observar", by the same token, is to raise objections. This is clear from the following later section in the Chilean law:
"Artículo 18.- Observaciones a la solicitud de anotación: En el caso que el Director respectivo observare la solicitud por estimar que existen impedimentos de forma o fondo para conceder la inscripción, el solicitante tiene el plazo de 30 días para subsanarlas. Una vez que se cumpla con la observación, o una vez terminada la tramitación de la solicitud anterior, la solicitud podrá ser aceptada o rechazada."
So "cumplir con la observación" means to take the necessary action to meet the objection.
"De fondo", by contrast with "de forma", is normally rendered in English as substance vs. form, as in defects of substance and of form. See here, for example:
http://thelawdictionary.org/defect-of-substance/
So I think "substantive objection" is right for "observación de fondo".
However, although you might assume that "de oficio" therefore means "of form", I don't think it does. The law uses "de forma" for that. "De oficio" means an objection raised by the patent or intellectual property authority itself:
"El abandono será declarado de oficio o a petición de la parte demandada".
After discussing the "examen de forma y fondo", the law goes on to say:
"Artículo 76.- Observación de oficio: Sin perjuicio de lo anterior, el Director de Marcas podrá en cualquier momento del procedimiento notificar por carta certificada alguna causal de rechazo. El solicitante deberá contestar esta observación en un plazo de 30 días a contar de su notificación."
So I think this is referring to an official objection.
Here is a bit of the UK Manual of Patent Practice:
"19.13 In addition to having the right to amend the specification in order to overcome an official objection, the applicant may make amendments for reasons of his own. [...]
Once the opportunities for amendment as of right (see 19.15-19.16) have passed, the applicant may make amendments which are not in response to an Official objection only with the consent of the comptroller and provided that they are received before issue of the letter informing the applicant that a patent has been granted"
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/practice-sec-019.pdf
http://www.derechomarcario.cl/nueva ley/Borrador Minecon-INA...
http://web.ua.es/es/contratos-id/documentos/ip-tango/compara...
"Observación" means, I think, a comment on a defect: an objection. I have met it in this sense before, particularly in Latin American official documents. "Observar", by the same token, is to raise objections. This is clear from the following later section in the Chilean law:
"Artículo 18.- Observaciones a la solicitud de anotación: En el caso que el Director respectivo observare la solicitud por estimar que existen impedimentos de forma o fondo para conceder la inscripción, el solicitante tiene el plazo de 30 días para subsanarlas. Una vez que se cumpla con la observación, o una vez terminada la tramitación de la solicitud anterior, la solicitud podrá ser aceptada o rechazada."
So "cumplir con la observación" means to take the necessary action to meet the objection.
"De fondo", by contrast with "de forma", is normally rendered in English as substance vs. form, as in defects of substance and of form. See here, for example:
http://thelawdictionary.org/defect-of-substance/
So I think "substantive objection" is right for "observación de fondo".
However, although you might assume that "de oficio" therefore means "of form", I don't think it does. The law uses "de forma" for that. "De oficio" means an objection raised by the patent or intellectual property authority itself:
"El abandono será declarado de oficio o a petición de la parte demandada".
After discussing the "examen de forma y fondo", the law goes on to say:
"Artículo 76.- Observación de oficio: Sin perjuicio de lo anterior, el Director de Marcas podrá en cualquier momento del procedimiento notificar por carta certificada alguna causal de rechazo. El solicitante deberá contestar esta observación en un plazo de 30 días a contar de su notificación."
So I think this is referring to an official objection.
Here is a bit of the UK Manual of Patent Practice:
"19.13 In addition to having the right to amend the specification in order to overcome an official objection, the applicant may make amendments for reasons of his own. [...]
Once the opportunities for amendment as of right (see 19.15-19.16) have passed, the applicant may make amendments which are not in response to an Official objection only with the consent of the comptroller and provided that they are received before issue of the letter informing the applicant that a patent has been granted"
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/practice-sec-019.pdf
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