Apr 18, 2012 05:43
12 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Spain
Natural sounding Translations
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
ejidataria
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
contract about a lease written in Mexico
CONVENIO DE OCUPACION TEMPORAL QUE CELEBRAN POR UNA PARTE, LA SOCIEDAD DENOMINADA MINERA MEDIA LUNA S.A. DE C.V., REPRESENTADA EN ESTE ACTO POR EL C. ALONSO LAZARIN ARIAS, A QUIEN EN LO SUCESIVO SE LE DENOMINARA "LA COMPANIA", Y POR LA OTRA PARTE MARIANA SALGADO HERNANDEZ, A QUIEN EN LO SUCESIVO SE LE DENOMINARA "LA EJIDATARIA", AL TENOR DE LAS SIGUIENTES DECLARACIONES Y CLAUSULAS:
.- De "LA EJIDATARIA":
a) Que es ejidataria reconocida del ejido Rio Balsas, municipio de Cocula, estado de Guerrero, titular de los derechos parcelarios correspondientes a Ia parcela identificada en el plano interne del ejido Rio Balsas, municipio de Cocula, estado de Guerrero con el No. 34 Z-1 P214 (TREINTA Y CUATRO), en lo sucesivo "LA INMUEBLE", parcela amparada con el certificado parcelario numero 240341, cuya copia simple se agrega al presente instrumento bajo el anexo "A".
According to the dictionary it is some sort of land cultivator or land owner, but I´m not sure.
.- De "LA EJIDATARIA":
a) Que es ejidataria reconocida del ejido Rio Balsas, municipio de Cocula, estado de Guerrero, titular de los derechos parcelarios correspondientes a Ia parcela identificada en el plano interne del ejido Rio Balsas, municipio de Cocula, estado de Guerrero con el No. 34 Z-1 P214 (TREINTA Y CUATRO), en lo sucesivo "LA INMUEBLE", parcela amparada con el certificado parcelario numero 240341, cuya copia simple se agrega al presente instrumento bajo el anexo "A".
According to the dictionary it is some sort of land cultivator or land owner, but I´m not sure.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | ejido holder |
John Rynne
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| 4 +1 | communal land holder |
liz askew
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| 5 | rightsholder of communal land |
Flavio Posse
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| 3 | commoner |
Adrian MM. (X)
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| 4 -1 | community property owner |
Richard Hill
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Proposed translations
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24 mins
John Rynne
Native in English
Works in field
Experts in finance - Spain
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
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ejido holder
Wikipedia actually maintains the Spanish term
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Peer comment(s):
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liz askew
: how are English speakers going to understand this, and I wouldn't cite Wiki as a reliable source.
35 mins
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Jessica Noyes
: I would define "ejido" and then use it in my translation. I realize that Google is not much more reliable than wikipedia, but I get 21,000 hits for "the ejido system," (in English, obviously).
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, I´ve used this with a footnote explaining the meaning in more detail."
+1
58 mins
communal land holder
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ejidataria comunal land hol...
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ejidatario - definition of ejidatario
www.dictionarist.com/ejidatario
Definition of ejidatario. What is meaning of ejidatario in all languages. Translation of ejidatario in the Dictionary. ... English - ejidatario. n. communal lands holder ...
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DOING BUSINESS WITH EJIDOS IN MEXICO
natlaw.com/interam/mx/rp/sp/spmxrp00010.pdf
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existing Mexican law an ejido is defined as a community with its own legal identity ... ejido ( Communal Land ); (2) land that has been sub-divided into parcels and .... these laws was to identify land that had no apparent owner so that the land ...
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Still, I am sure a Mexican will come along and put us all right!
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http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wrxSUz5iIfgC&pg=PA192&lpg...
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ejidatario - definition of ejidatario
www.dictionarist.com/ejidatario
Definition of ejidatario. What is meaning of ejidatario in all languages. Translation of ejidatario in the Dictionary. ... English - ejidatario. n. communal lands holder ...
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DOING BUSINESS WITH EJIDOS IN MEXICO
natlaw.com/interam/mx/rp/sp/spmxrp00010.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
existing Mexican law an ejido is defined as a community with its own legal identity ... ejido ( Communal Land ); (2) land that has been sub-divided into parcels and .... these laws was to identify land that had no apparent owner so that the land ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2012-04-18 06:44:24 GMT)
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Still, I am sure a Mexican will come along and put us all right!
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Note added at 1 hr (2012-04-18 06:45:13 GMT)
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http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wrxSUz5iIfgC&pg=PA192&lpg...
5 hrs
commoner
One of the meanings of commoner: not a member of the Non-Royalty, but an owner in common.
Example sentence:
Councils are responsible for maintaining the registers of common land and virtue of a separate land ownership by the commoner (ie they \'attach\' to their land) www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/Planning/LandAndProper
9 hrs
rightsholder of communal land
The "ejidataria" only holds the rights to the land.
http://www.sansebastianconference.com/en/downloads/full-prog...
"The study is an inventory of, on the one hand, what would be possible to implement on the one hand and, on the other hand, of the opinions and willingness of the rural residents, ejidatarios (rightsholders of communal lands) and municipal authorities, and lastly, the business sector, which saw this proposal as highly viable."
http://www.sansebastianconference.com/en/downloads/full-prog...
"The study is an inventory of, on the one hand, what would be possible to implement on the one hand and, on the other hand, of the opinions and willingness of the rural residents, ejidatarios (rightsholders of communal lands) and municipal authorities, and lastly, the business sector, which saw this proposal as highly viable."
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9 hrs
community property owner
They say that it is actually an agreement made by ALL the ejidatarios (community property owners) in the region. Hiring a guide from any of the ejidos allows free entry to any of the ejidos. Hiring a guide from San Jose would allow free camping in their community property area, according to one of the brothers.
http://maybank.tripod.com/Mexico/Tamaulipas-11-98.htm
WHAT IS AN EJIDO?
In general terms, an ejido is a collective group of people that live and work on a determined piece of property as a community. While the concept of the ejido in Mexico is prehispanic, most of the fundamental ideas and concepts that created what an ejido is today stem from the theories of democratic communism. Understanding this is very important when dealing with ejidos. Most people reading this article have grown up in a society based on democratic capitalism in which the individual and not the community determines what he or she is going to do. In a communistic society the community determines what it is going to do, including agreeing upon how the land they hold is to be used.
Taking into consideration the above, it is not hard to imagine the confusions that could exist when discussing ownership of ejido land. Most foreigners associate the word "ownership" with words such as "fee simple", "private property" "Adam Smith", while the ejidatarios idea would be more on the lines of "community rights", "right to use and enjoy", "governmental concession".
http://www.mexicolaw.com.mx/ejido.html
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Once the entire ejido is measured, an ejido meeting or "Asamblea" is called to assign each parcel and lot to the person the ejido recognizes as the owner. If there are areas in the ejido in conflict or that have not yet been assigned to a specific person, the ejido can agree to leave such area to be assigned at a later date. Once the land of the ejido has been assigned, the government will issue the certificates or titles that correspond to the land in questions. Certificates and titles are not synonyms and different rules apply to each one. One thing that must be understood is the fact that in accordance with laws governing ejidos there are three basic types of ejido land. These three types are land are classified as follows:
1.- "Solores" or lots and which are converted to private property through the PROCEDE procedure and do not require the "Dominio Pleno" procedure to be converted into private property titles.
2.- "Parcelas" or parcels. Through PROCEDE parcels are given "certificados parcelarios" or parcel certificates and which are governed by agrarian or ejido law until converted to private property titles through the "Dominio Pleno" procedure.
3.- "Uso Comun" or common use land. Common use land cannot be converted directly into private property titles but can be converted into either "Solares" or "Parcels".
As soon as the government has issued the majority of the ejido titles or certificates the second procedure which is called "Dominio Pleno" can begin and by means of which each individual ejidatario can convert his parcel certificate into a private property title.
B.- Domino Pleno.-
The Dominion Pleno procedure is much less involved than the PROCEDE procedure. Once the ejido legally can enter into Dominio Pleno, an ejido meeting has to be called and the members of the ejido have to agree that each individual ejido member can, from the date of the agreement, convert their parcel certificates into private property. This does not mean that from this moment on all the land in the ejido is now private property. The only thing that the approval of Dominio Pleno means is that each individual ejido member, whenever he or she feels it is convenient, can convert his or her parcel certificate into a private property title.
Once the parcel certificate is converted to a private property title and dully registered, the ejido member can sell to persons outside of the ejido, including foreigners, observing certain third party legal rights.
Please understand, even though the Dominio Pleno procedure is much less involved than the PROCEDE procedure, there are many formalities that must be observed. If these formalities are not observed the transfer of the corresponding property title could be declared null and void.
The fact that vast tracts of ejido land can now be converted into private property, coupled with the fact that recent reforms in Mexican legislation now allow foreigners to secure tile to land much easier add up to huge investment possibilities for people looking for security through real estate investment with the probability of large returns. Please contact me if you have any questions regarding the above or are interested in acquiring ejido property.
http://www.mexicolaw.com.mx/ejido.html
http://maybank.tripod.com/Mexico/Tamaulipas-11-98.htm
WHAT IS AN EJIDO?
In general terms, an ejido is a collective group of people that live and work on a determined piece of property as a community. While the concept of the ejido in Mexico is prehispanic, most of the fundamental ideas and concepts that created what an ejido is today stem from the theories of democratic communism. Understanding this is very important when dealing with ejidos. Most people reading this article have grown up in a society based on democratic capitalism in which the individual and not the community determines what he or she is going to do. In a communistic society the community determines what it is going to do, including agreeing upon how the land they hold is to be used.
Taking into consideration the above, it is not hard to imagine the confusions that could exist when discussing ownership of ejido land. Most foreigners associate the word "ownership" with words such as "fee simple", "private property" "Adam Smith", while the ejidatarios idea would be more on the lines of "community rights", "right to use and enjoy", "governmental concession".
http://www.mexicolaw.com.mx/ejido.html
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Once the entire ejido is measured, an ejido meeting or "Asamblea" is called to assign each parcel and lot to the person the ejido recognizes as the owner. If there are areas in the ejido in conflict or that have not yet been assigned to a specific person, the ejido can agree to leave such area to be assigned at a later date. Once the land of the ejido has been assigned, the government will issue the certificates or titles that correspond to the land in questions. Certificates and titles are not synonyms and different rules apply to each one. One thing that must be understood is the fact that in accordance with laws governing ejidos there are three basic types of ejido land. These three types are land are classified as follows:
1.- "Solores" or lots and which are converted to private property through the PROCEDE procedure and do not require the "Dominio Pleno" procedure to be converted into private property titles.
2.- "Parcelas" or parcels. Through PROCEDE parcels are given "certificados parcelarios" or parcel certificates and which are governed by agrarian or ejido law until converted to private property titles through the "Dominio Pleno" procedure.
3.- "Uso Comun" or common use land. Common use land cannot be converted directly into private property titles but can be converted into either "Solares" or "Parcels".
As soon as the government has issued the majority of the ejido titles or certificates the second procedure which is called "Dominio Pleno" can begin and by means of which each individual ejidatario can convert his parcel certificate into a private property title.
B.- Domino Pleno.-
The Dominion Pleno procedure is much less involved than the PROCEDE procedure. Once the ejido legally can enter into Dominio Pleno, an ejido meeting has to be called and the members of the ejido have to agree that each individual ejido member can, from the date of the agreement, convert their parcel certificates into private property. This does not mean that from this moment on all the land in the ejido is now private property. The only thing that the approval of Dominio Pleno means is that each individual ejido member, whenever he or she feels it is convenient, can convert his or her parcel certificate into a private property title.
Once the parcel certificate is converted to a private property title and dully registered, the ejido member can sell to persons outside of the ejido, including foreigners, observing certain third party legal rights.
Please understand, even though the Dominio Pleno procedure is much less involved than the PROCEDE procedure, there are many formalities that must be observed. If these formalities are not observed the transfer of the corresponding property title could be declared null and void.
The fact that vast tracts of ejido land can now be converted into private property, coupled with the fact that recent reforms in Mexican legislation now allow foreigners to secure tile to land much easier add up to huge investment possibilities for people looking for security through real estate investment with the probability of large returns. Please contact me if you have any questions regarding the above or are interested in acquiring ejido property.
http://www.mexicolaw.com.mx/ejido.html
Peer comment(s):
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Flavio Posse
: The ejidatario doesn't own the land, the government does.
20 mins
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As already mentioned the sale of ejido lands is now legal and ejidatarios can sell their lands to whomever they wish; consequently the government has lost control of the fate of these lands. http://idl-bnc.idrc.ca/dspace/bitstream/10625/30840/1/120940...
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