Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
victoriosa TV
English translation:
top-scoring TV
Added to glossary by
Eugenio Llorente
Jul 18, 2011 12:12
12 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Spain
High quality translations
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
victoriosa (en este contexto)
Spanish to English
Marketing
Advertising / Public Relations
Estudios de mercado.
Se trata del recuerdo publicitario, después de exposición en distintos medios. Tengo curiosidad por ver como se puede traducir "victoriosa" en este forzado original (y tipo slogan):
"Centros Comerciales ocupa claramente el segundo lugar después de la victoriosa TV"
De momento lo traduzco saltándome la palabra "victoriosa" porque no sé como quedaría que sonara más natural que en el original:
"Shopping centers clearly take second place to television effectiveness "
"Centros Comerciales ocupa claramente el segundo lugar después de la victoriosa TV"
De momento lo traduzco saltándome la palabra "victoriosa" porque no sé como quedaría que sonara más natural que en el original:
"Shopping centers clearly take second place to television effectiveness "
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | top-scoring effectiveness of TV |
Lisa McCarthy
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| 4 +3 | all-conquering |
Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
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| 4 +1 | unparalleled impact of TV |
James A. Walsh
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| 5 | the ascendancy of television |
Pablo Julián Davis
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| 4 | success (TV had has) |
Michael Powers (PhD)
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| 4 | TV, which occupies the undisputed first place |
Jenni Lukac (X)
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| 4 | top banana |
neilmac
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| 3 | winner |
Y. Peraza
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Proposed translations
+3
15 mins
Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Specializes in field
Spain
Especialista de marketing
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, Catalan to English
Related KudoZ points
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100
Selected
top-scoring effectiveness of TV
"Shopping centers are clearly runners-up to the top-scoring effectiveness of TV."
"Shopping centers are clearly runners-up to top-scoring TV."
Highest Scoring TV Ads for 2009: Rubbermaid Takes Top Honors
www.marketingcharts.com/.../highest-scoring-tv-ads-for-2009...
4 Jan 2010 – was the most creatively effective TV ad in 2009, according to Ace Metrix's “**Top Scoring TVAdvertisements for 2009**″ ranking. ...
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ALTERNATIVELY, "HIGHEST-SCORING / BEST-SCORING" / HIGHEST-SCORER / TOP-SCORER / TOP SCORING TV
Google's Touching “Dear Sophie” Ad is Most Effective TV “Ad of the ...
article.wn.com/.../Google_s_Touching_Dear_Sophie_Ad_is_Most_... - Cached
12 May 2011 – Google's Touching “Dear Sophie” Ad is Most Effective TV “Ad of the Week” and the **Highest-Scoring Google Ad** in the Last Year, According to ...
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2011-07-19 15:00:38 GMT) Post-grading
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A pleasure to help as ever, Eugenio :)
"Shopping centers are clearly runners-up to top-scoring TV."
Highest Scoring TV Ads for 2009: Rubbermaid Takes Top Honors
www.marketingcharts.com/.../highest-scoring-tv-ads-for-2009...
4 Jan 2010 – was the most creatively effective TV ad in 2009, according to Ace Metrix's “**Top Scoring TVAdvertisements for 2009**″ ranking. ...
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Note added at 20 mins (2011-07-18 12:33:05 GMT)
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ALTERNATIVELY, "HIGHEST-SCORING / BEST-SCORING" / HIGHEST-SCORER / TOP-SCORER / TOP SCORING TV
Google's Touching “Dear Sophie” Ad is Most Effective TV “Ad of the ...
article.wn.com/.../Google_s_Touching_Dear_Sophie_Ad_is_Most_... - Cached
12 May 2011 – Google's Touching “Dear Sophie” Ad is Most Effective TV “Ad of the Week” and the **Highest-Scoring Google Ad** in the Last Year, According to ...
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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2011-07-19 15:00:38 GMT) Post-grading
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A pleasure to help as ever, Eugenio :)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Mónica Algazi
30 mins
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Thanks, Mónica :)
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franglish
: top-scoring is fine but I'd leave out effectiveness.
1 hr
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Thanks Franglish, I agree 'effectiveness is unnecessary.
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neilmac
: I'd prefer "top-scorer TV" but if I see another effective/ness today I thwear I shall thcweam and thcweam...
19 hrs
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Thanks, Neil :))) -'til you get sick?
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Top-scoring answer, Lisa!
And thank you very much for all your comments on answerers to my previous questions. "
5 mins
winner
Mi sugerencia: cambia el orden de la frase y explica más que adjetiva:
Shopping Centers' effectiveness goes second to that of television, the absolute winner.
O algo así!
Shopping Centers' effectiveness goes second to that of television, the absolute winner.
O algo así!
Peer comment(s):
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Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
: "Goes second to" sounds odd. 'is second only to' would be better
6 mins
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Thanks for the input, Karen!
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neilmac
: Spanish speakers often confuse the directional aspect of come and go. This is a fact, not an opinion. I think I am AM being constructive.
19 hrs
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Hum, very arrogant. You are not being constructive in the sense you are not providing with a better alternative to my translation. According to you the problem here is the confusion between "come" and "go". Would you then say "come second to"? Is that it?
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5 mins
Michael Powers (PhD)
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
US Court Cert. 1980 Ph.D. 1981
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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68
success (TV had has)
Shopping Centers are clearly in second place after the success TV has had.
suggestion
Mike
suggestion
Mike
+3
13 mins
all-conquering
Tv is all-conquering, but shopping centres are close runners-up...
Peer comment(s):
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Jaime Hyland
: this gets the sense right, imo
1 hr
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Thank you, Jaime :)
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Charles Davis
: I like this; I think it strikes the right note for "victoriosa".
1 hr
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Thank you, Charles!
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Neil Ashby
5 hrs
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Thank you, DrNeil!
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39 mins
TV, which occupies the undisputed first place
perhaps: Shopping centers come in second after TV/television, which occupies the undisputed first place in terms of (advertising effectiveness or what ever term you decide to use). Tinged with bit of thoroughbred racing imagery . . .
+1
1 hr
James A. Walsh
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
Spain
A cut above the rest in translation...
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, US, UK) 
, Spanish (Variants: Latin American, Standard-Spain)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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20
Spanish term (edited):
la victoriosa TV
unparalleled impact of TV
That would be my take on it.
3 hrs
Pablo Julián Davis
Native in Spanish
&
English
La palabra justa/The right word
Native in: Spanish , English
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, Portuguese to Spanish, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
4
Spanish term (edited):
la victoriosa televisión
the ascendancy of television
Me parece que se trata de recalcar la importancia de los shoppings/centros comerciales y no de la televisión, de ahí mi sugerencia de usar el giro de 'second only to'... Por la misma razón, la linda frase 'all-conquering' me parece desmedida en este contexto, por lo que saca el énfasis de los centros comerciales y se lo concede a la televisión.
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Por la misma razón, 'unparalleled impact', 'winner', etc., me parece que dan un énfasis equivocado.
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Por la misma razón, 'unparalleled impact', 'winner', etc., me parece que dan un énfasis equivocado.
Example sentence:
Shopping centers clearly are second only to the ascendancy of television.
20 hrs
top banana
I'm being facetious to prove a point. What I mean is that there are several ways to express the notion, ranging from classic to yawnsville, to bathos and beyond.
"Shopping centres (or malls) come a close second to TV, the (undisputed/unrivalled.... etc) numero uno/top dog/leader/Buzz Lightyear(insert catchy epithet of choice)."
"... fall into line behind the sempiternal reigning champion, TV"
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"TV, the grand panjandrum...".
Translation in marketing/advertising can be fun, but hard work and often time-consuming if you want to get it like baby bear's porridge...
"Shopping centres (or malls) come a close second to TV, the (undisputed/unrivalled.... etc) numero uno/top dog/leader/Buzz Lightyear(insert catchy epithet of choice)."
"... fall into line behind the sempiternal reigning champion, TV"
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Note added at 20 hrs (2011-07-19 08:17:00 GMT)
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"TV, the grand panjandrum...".
Translation in marketing/advertising can be fun, but hard work and often time-consuming if you want to get it like baby bear's porridge...
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