Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
in der Klasse/im Klassenverband
English translation:
as a class/as a group/whole-class
Added to glossary by
Craig Meulen
May 12, 2011 10:47
13 yrs ago
German term
United Kingdom
in der Klasse
German to English
Social Sciences
Education / Pedagogy
I'm proofreading the translation of some instructions for teachers to accompany a lesson. The German original uses two phrases to describe situations where all the pupils carry out an exercise together (rather than individually, in pairs or small groups),
im Klassenverband
in der Klasse
The translator often uses "in the class" to translate this, but this doesn't seem very clear to me:
In the class the students study a composite picture of ...
XXY can be discussed in the class.
The exercises can either be carried out in the class or added to the pupil's individual schedule.
What do you think? Are these clear enough? Or do I need to change it to something clearer, like "in the group", "as a class"?
To make it clear, I would use this phrase to distinguish between "in the class" and "at home as homework". But that is not what is meant here - all the work is carried out in the classroom, even the other tasks that are not "in der Klasse" in German.
Thanks for your advice
Craig
im Klassenverband
in der Klasse
The translator often uses "in the class" to translate this, but this doesn't seem very clear to me:
In the class the students study a composite picture of ...
XXY can be discussed in the class.
The exercises can either be carried out in the class or added to the pupil's individual schedule.
What do you think? Are these clear enough? Or do I need to change it to something clearer, like "in the group", "as a class"?
To make it clear, I would use this phrase to distinguish between "in the class" and "at home as homework". But that is not what is meant here - all the work is carried out in the classroom, even the other tasks that are not "in der Klasse" in German.
Thanks for your advice
Craig
Proposed translations
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| 5 +2 | as a class or as a group |
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| 4 +3 | in class/the class |
Ramey Rieger (X)
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| 3 +3 | whole-class |
Alison MacG
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| 3 | during class sessions / while class is in session / during class hours |
gangels (X)
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Proposed translations
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4 mins
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as a class or as a group
To distinguish from "at home as homework" I'd say "in the classroom"
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Note added at 4 Stunden (2011-05-12 14:50:49 GMT)
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I was just adding the bit about at home as an additional comment.
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Note added at 4 Stunden (2011-05-12 14:50:49 GMT)
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I was just adding the bit about at home as an additional comment.
Note from asker:
| I'm not looking for a phrase to distinguish from "at home". I'm looking for a phrase to distinguish from "individually" or "in pairs". |
| I forgot to write Thank you in the first comment, since your suggestion "as a class" confirms what I need. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jaime Hyland
: yep. "as a class" It means together, collectively, as a single group.
1 hr
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thanks
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Rosa Foyle
: Yes, this expression makes it clear that it is to be done together as a whole class
2 hrs
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thanks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "We chose "as a class". Thanks."
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whole-class
Another option, to distiguish between, e.g. whole-class and group teaching/activities
Group work v. whole-class activities
Group and pair work (henceforth group work) are so much a part of our everyday teaching routine that we hardly pause to think before partitioning the class to tackle some particular communicative task. But group work may not always be the best option. There will be a time and a place for whole-class activities in the English language classroom, just as there's a time and a place for group and pair work.
•In praise of group work
•In praise of whole-class discussion
•Tact and sensitivity
•Repertoire
•Variety adds spice to the classroom
http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/think/articles/group-work-...
Group work v. whole-class activities
Group and pair work (henceforth group work) are so much a part of our everyday teaching routine that we hardly pause to think before partitioning the class to tackle some particular communicative task. But group work may not always be the best option. There will be a time and a place for whole-class activities in the English language classroom, just as there's a time and a place for group and pair work.
•In praise of group work
•In praise of whole-class discussion
•Tact and sensitivity
•Repertoire
•Variety adds spice to the classroom
http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/think/articles/group-work-...
Note from asker:
| A very clear alternative to "as a class". Thank you. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Nicola Wood
: My first choice based on 10 years' teaching experience
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Thanks, Nicola (or perhaps that should be Thank you, Miss)
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| agree |
Lancashireman
: This is the term used at the chalkface
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Thanks from one happy to have spent only one year at the chalkface (not that being an English-language assistant really counts - I have every respect for those at the real chalkface)
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John Hein-Hartmann
: As a former teacher, we always talked about whole-class acitvities
2 hrs
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Thanks, John
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3 hrs
during class sessions / while class is in session / during class hours
you'd say in English
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Armorel Young
: that's not the point - the idea is that the class is doing it together, not in pairs or small groups in class time.
47 mins
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28 mins
in class/the class
It's a simple matter of the preposition
"in class" is in the school. in the classroom - which can be used as an alternative when you get bored with in class (in der Klasse)
"the class" is the gruop (Klassenverband)
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Note added at 28 mins (2011-05-12 11:16:20 GMT)
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The class is given four exercises to choose from.......
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Note added at 19 hrs (2011-05-13 06:29:14 GMT)
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You could vary, you know.....
In class the students work together on their upcoming presentation.
The exercises can be carried out in class or individually.
The class completed the project just in the nick of time.
Every student in the class joined in in the song.
....until death do us part.......
"in class" is in the school. in the classroom - which can be used as an alternative when you get bored with in class (in der Klasse)
"the class" is the gruop (Klassenverband)
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Note added at 28 mins (2011-05-12 11:16:20 GMT)
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The class is given four exercises to choose from.......
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Note added at 19 hrs (2011-05-13 06:29:14 GMT)
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You could vary, you know.....
In class the students work together on their upcoming presentation.
The exercises can be carried out in class or individually.
The class completed the project just in the nick of time.
Every student in the class joined in in the song.
....until death do us part.......
Example sentence:
in class the students study........
The exercises can either be carried out in class or individually....
Note from asker:
| Actually, the German author uses "in der Klasse" and "im Klassenverband" synonymously in this text. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
philgoddard
: I think this is much simpler than the asker and the other answerers imply.
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I'm so glad someone else thinks so! Thanks and have nice evening (if you're in my hemisphere)
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| neutral |
Lancashireman
: Pair work and group work would also take place 'in class'. So not quite as simple as PG surmises.
7 hrs
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in class the class works on classy cases of classroom communication
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| agree |
D-E Translator
13 hrs
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Thank-you your Distinguished-Excellence!
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| agree |
Sandy23 (X)
: I had to choose a number and guessed a valid one!
18 hrs
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Thank-you Sandy 23 (are there really 22 before you?)
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Discussion
But I still prefer 'whole-class' as suggested below