May 9, 2011 13:27
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French term
0 heures
French to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
this is in a contract and defines a week for the purposes of counting the number of licences used during that week:
"La semaine commence le lundi à 0 heure et se termine le dimanche à 24heures"
I'm not sure how best to translate 0 heure and 24 heures in uk english without it being ambiguous.
Thanks
"La semaine commence le lundi à 0 heure et se termine le dimanche à 24heures"
I'm not sure how best to translate 0 heure and 24 heures in uk english without it being ambiguous.
Thanks
Proposed translations
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| 4 | 0:00 |
philgoddard
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| 4 +4 | 00:00 |
liz askew
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| 3 +1 | midnight |
Callum Walker
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Proposed translations
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It is a rather odd way of putting it, since they're both the same time - they could have left out "et se termine le dimanche à 24heures", or they could have said that the week ends at 23:59:59.
I'd just translate what the French says.
I'd just translate what the French says.
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Comment: "thanks that's what I thought but it seemed strange!"
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midnight
It starts at midnight on Monday and finishes at midnight the following Monday. That is the best "everyday English" way to describe it.
Though that said, 0:00 and 24:00 would be understood in English, even though it is not commonplace.
Though that said, 0:00 and 24:00 would be understood in English, even though it is not commonplace.
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: "Midnight on Monday" is ambiguous - most people would take it to mean 24:00 on Monday, which is not the case here.
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Surely though it would be obvious what is meant by "working week" though? Alternatively, substitute Monday for Sunday? Personally, I consider Monday to be clearer because it expresses the idea of a full week better.
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Colin Rowe
: Surely midnight Sunday to midnight Sunday... ?
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But do we not work on the basis of the next day in English? 0:00 this morning would be midnight (Monday morning)... or that's how I would describe it personally.
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| agree |
cc in nyc
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_QYYLaQ...
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Note added at 10 mins (2011-05-09 13:38:41 GMT)
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24-hour clock 12-hour clock
00:00 12:00 a.m.
(start of day)
"12 midnight"
01:00 1:00 a.m.
02:00 2:00 a.m.
03:00 3:00 a.m.
04:00 4:00 a.m.
05:00 5:00 a.m.
06:00 6:00 a.m.
07:00 7:00 a.m.
08:00 8:00 a.m.
09:00 9:00 a.m.
10:00 10:00 a.m.
11:00 11:00 a.m.
12:00 12:00 p.m.
12 noon
13:00 1:00 p.m.
14:00 2:00 p.m.
15:00 3:00 p.m.
16:00 4:00 p.m.
17:00 5:00 p.m.
18:00 6:00 p.m.
19:00 7:00 p.m.
20:00 8:00 p.m.
21:00 9:00 p.m.
22:00 10:00 p.m.
23:00 11:00 p.m.
24:00 ("12 midnight")*
(end of day)
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Note added at 13 mins (2011-05-09 13:41:41 GMT)
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International standard date and time notation
19 Dec 2004 ... As every day both starts and ends with midnight, the two notations 00:00 and 24:00 are available to distinguish the two midnights that can ...
www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html - Cached - Similar
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Note added at 10 mins (2011-05-09 13:38:41 GMT)
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24-hour clock 12-hour clock
00:00 12:00 a.m.
(start of day)
"12 midnight"
01:00 1:00 a.m.
02:00 2:00 a.m.
03:00 3:00 a.m.
04:00 4:00 a.m.
05:00 5:00 a.m.
06:00 6:00 a.m.
07:00 7:00 a.m.
08:00 8:00 a.m.
09:00 9:00 a.m.
10:00 10:00 a.m.
11:00 11:00 a.m.
12:00 12:00 p.m.
12 noon
13:00 1:00 p.m.
14:00 2:00 p.m.
15:00 3:00 p.m.
16:00 4:00 p.m.
17:00 5:00 p.m.
18:00 6:00 p.m.
19:00 7:00 p.m.
20:00 8:00 p.m.
21:00 9:00 p.m.
22:00 10:00 p.m.
23:00 11:00 p.m.
24:00 ("12 midnight")*
(end of day)
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Note added at 13 mins (2011-05-09 13:41:41 GMT)
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International standard date and time notation
19 Dec 2004 ... As every day both starts and ends with midnight, the two notations 00:00 and 24:00 are available to distinguish the two midnights that can ...
www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html - Cached - Similar
Peer comment(s):
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Colin Rowe
: 00:00 Monday to 24:00 Sunday, or 12:00 a.m. Monday to 12:00 p.m. Sunday, perhaps... // Sorry, this was meant to be an Agree, not a Neutral :-~ !!
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I am just answering the asker's query.
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| agree |
Jean-Louis S.
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Thank you!
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| agree |
cc in nyc
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Thank you!
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| agree |
Alain Mouchel
: your answer corredponds to Wikipedia's definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock
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Thank you!
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Discussion
(And I don't see how midnight could be either 12 am or 12 pm.)
BTW, personally, I would use "midnight" and "noon" wherever possible, but that was not Asker's question.
I just realized that the Asker is looking for UK English. Could digital clocks work differently in the UK?
EDIT: I forgot to look at my computer at noon! In the meantime, I found a reference I like: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/info/noon.htm