May 4, 2011 22:41
13 yrs ago
French term
tub à scrap
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Ships, Sailing, Maritime
loading/unloading vessels
It is obviously exaggerating a bit to call this a French term but it is used in Quebec French and I don't know enough about the domain to know whether the same words are used in English. This term is used in Quebec to describe the large containers used at shipping docks that are hoisted and moved around and used to toss scrap into. I can't find much evidence of "tubs à scrap" or "scrap tubs" on Google. Can anyone suggest what to call this in English? See the link for a photo (GIF, 131K, I uploaded this picture myself to my private webspace and so it is safe). Any suggestions much appreciated!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1489231/tub_a_scrap.gif
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1489231/tub_a_scrap.gif
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | scrap tub |
philgoddard
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| 3 +2 | scrap metal skip |
B D Finch
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| 4 | scrap container |
Mark Bossanyi
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| 4 | bucket |
Graham macLachlan
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Proposed translations
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45 mins
philgoddard
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Six languages into flawless English
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 4 more.
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32
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scrap tub
The fact that you describe them as "containers used to toss scrap into", and that they've chosen to use two English words, makes this a fairly obvious choice. And it gets plenty of Google hits as a container for scrap.
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I went with "scrap tub" in the end to minimize questions from the client although if I was writing this text rather than translating it, I think I would have used "scrap container." Thank you to everyone for your help."
10 hrs
Mark Bossanyi
Bulgaria
Bulgaria
Native in English
Works in field
Bulgaria
The original in all but the language
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, Bulgarian to English, Esperanto to English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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4
scrap container
That's what they called them where I used to work. A lot of the photos look like the one on the asker's link.
Peer comment(s):
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kashew
: skip open - container closed?
5 hrs
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A skip is always open. A container can be both.
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B D Finch
: I agree that a container can be open or closed. However, it is either too general or, if specific (and especially at the docks) the wrong sort of thing: http://www.en-derin.com/artworks/crazy-cargo-30-steel-shippi...
6 hrs
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Not wanting to be a bore, but have a look at this (one of many examples): http://rpn.baumpub.com/products/7290/e-scrap-container. Certainly not a freight container. However, if you still think it's too general, a "scrap hopper" may also do the trick.
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11 hrs
bucket
I would call it a "bucket" despite the caption on this photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/21537240@N08/2506281146/in/phot... calling it a "shovel".
Bucket
b.3.b A scoop operated by power, used for hoisting coal, grain, etc., and in dredging and excavating.
OED
I wouldn't call the object in your picture a "tub", despite "tub à scraps", because the word conveys an idea of "storage" whereas your object looks like it doesn't hold the scrap for very long, instead scooping it up and dumping into another container (skip, ship's hold). Although the usage could derive from the mining industry as:
Tub
a.5.a ‘Originally a mining bucket, now specially applied to the open-topped box of wood or iron, mounted on wheels, in which coal is brought from the face to the surface.
OED
Bucket
b.3.b A scoop operated by power, used for hoisting coal, grain, etc., and in dredging and excavating.
OED
I wouldn't call the object in your picture a "tub", despite "tub à scraps", because the word conveys an idea of "storage" whereas your object looks like it doesn't hold the scrap for very long, instead scooping it up and dumping into another container (skip, ship's hold). Although the usage could derive from the mining industry as:
Tub
a.5.a ‘Originally a mining bucket, now specially applied to the open-topped box of wood or iron, mounted on wheels, in which coal is brought from the face to the surface.
OED
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10 hrs
scrap metal skip
"Scrap metal skips up to 16 yards are supplied FREE OF CHARGE, with payment being made on skips weighing 2 tonne or more. The larger skips are hired in and ..."
www.reclamet.co.uk/scrap/skips.htm
"Non Ferrous Metal Recyclers, Scrap Metal Skip Hire & Registered Waste Carrier. ... Some of our Handling Process. ... 16 images"
www.walkdenmetals.co.uk/Metal-Recyclers.html -
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Note added at 13 hrs (2011-05-05 12:40:06 GMT)
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Canadian refs:
"... Large, bulky piece of Styrofoam can take up significant space in a waste skip which means the skip becomes full more quickly and then has to ..."
www.odec.ca/projects/2010/yoosxs2/new_page_14.htm -
"Advise your contractors to leave room for the delivery of the bin & the pick up of the bin when full.
Make sure there is no overhanging tress or powerlines (20 feet height clearace required). Make sure your car, boat or caravan is moved if needed PRIOR TO THE BIN BEING DELIVERED & that car keys are available for vehicles on site if needed.
Make sure you have not placed your rubbish where your skip bin is to be placed."
http://www.atlasdisposal.ca/?page_id=11
Canadians seem to call them "skip bins", rather than skips.
www.reclamet.co.uk/scrap/skips.htm
"Non Ferrous Metal Recyclers, Scrap Metal Skip Hire & Registered Waste Carrier. ... Some of our Handling Process. ... 16 images"
www.walkdenmetals.co.uk/Metal-Recyclers.html -
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Note added at 13 hrs (2011-05-05 12:40:06 GMT)
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Canadian refs:
"... Large, bulky piece of Styrofoam can take up significant space in a waste skip which means the skip becomes full more quickly and then has to ..."
www.odec.ca/projects/2010/yoosxs2/new_page_14.htm -
"Advise your contractors to leave room for the delivery of the bin & the pick up of the bin when full.
Make sure there is no overhanging tress or powerlines (20 feet height clearace required). Make sure your car, boat or caravan is moved if needed PRIOR TO THE BIN BEING DELIVERED & that car keys are available for vehicles on site if needed.
Make sure you have not placed your rubbish where your skip bin is to be placed."
http://www.atlasdisposal.ca/?page_id=11
Canadians seem to call them "skip bins", rather than skips.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: "skip" common and perfect this side of pond but for Canada?//yes, skip bin seems OK
3 hrs
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Thanks gallagy. See my note above.
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kashew
: But why commit to exclusively metal? // Remember Steptoe & Son?
4 hrs
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Thanks kashew. Because of the word "scrap". Of course, the rag-and-bone man took stuff other than rags and bones.// Indeed I do remember Steptoe & Son, but the horse proved that they were rag-and-bone men.
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