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Glossary entry

Polish term or phrase:

ćwiczenia audytoryjne

English translation:

class[es]

Added to glossary by adamgajlewicz
Jan 8, 2011 13:33
13 yrs ago
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Polish term

ćwiczenia audytoryjne

Polish to English Social Sciences Education / Pedagogy Transcript - type or form of a university course
This is how courses are delivered at a national defence institute. I have never seen anything like that in regular transcripts. It is accompanied by regular lectures, seminars, classes, tutorials, and so on. With the meagre context given, I thought I should ask someone who has translated that phrase before...
Proposed translations (English)
2 +2 recitation class
Change log

Jan 8, 2011 13:46: Darius Saczuk changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences" , "Field (specific)" from "Military / Defense" to "Education / Pedagogy"

Discussion

literary Feb 11, 2012:
In fact, many universities offer lower level classes as auditorium classes. They pack more students into classes and have fewer professors or graduate students teaching the courses and maximize their money off the first and second year students rather than those in upper level courses.
http://www.articlesfree.co.uk/Art/222616/273/Financial-Motiv...
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 9, 2011:
@Dariusz I think you were right saying previosuly that they are just classes because they are. Your previous answer is completely accurate. The answer is "classes", considering. As you have seen the audytoryjne stuff is a useless adjunct to the word that amply conveys the underlying meaning. Other types of classes will be classified as tutorials or otherwise. So shall we add "classes" to the glossary?
Iwona Szymaniak Jan 9, 2011:
Not so much different... See Darek's comment above:
Term15:29 8 Jan

If classes are accompanied by lectures, I'd go for the following: wykład - lecture, ćwiczenia - recitation class. If classes are not accompanied by lectures, I'd just use "CLASS."
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 9, 2011:
I've just noticed that the question has been handled before and Dariusz presented a different answer there http://www.proz.com/kudoz/polish_to_english/education_pedago... :- which under these circumstances appears to be the most satisfactory and convenient one.
Iwona Szymaniak Jan 9, 2011:
In this particular school, they must have lost their meaning, and now they are used for anything offered under the roof, in a classroom setting. :)
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 9, 2011:
And now, take this! Physical education is also described as audytoryjne classes. What do you reckon now????? Are you still sure that we are talking about recitation classes here? Is it possible the registrar misused the term?
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 9, 2011:
@Iwona: I guess we are almost there... Yet, in your reference it says: "My friend's daughter has math and foreign language recitation once a week in addition to the regular classes". I can infer from the transcript the English course is what we should refer to as regular classes, am I right? Then it might imply that recitation classes are not regular classes which is not the case because they are. Are we still on the right track?
Iwona Szymaniak Jan 9, 2011:
Some more help Perhaps this could also help http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/457547-rec...
I believe recitation or preceptorial classes could be used as a broader term and language class as a specific form of it. In a language class, groups would usually tend to be smaller and teaching methods used might take a variety of forms: oral or written drills, guided conversations, Q&As, guided writing, etc. etc.
In contrast, language lab would use specialized audio/A&V equipment with individual boxes for students.
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 9, 2011:
I should have added that the audytoryjne classes are somehow contrasted with or rather distinguished from classes marked as decision games, which makes things look even more interesting.
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 9, 2011:
As regards the nature of recitation class Dariusz is absolutely right and I greatly appreciate his assistance and input. Yet, are we talking about the same kind of thing here: a sort of presentation made by a student to demonstrate knowledge of a subject or to provide instruction to others. In some academic institutions the term is used for a presentation by a teaching assistant (TA) or instructor, under the guidance of a senior faculty, that supplements course materials. In recitations that supplement lectures, the leader will often review the lecture, expand on the concepts, and carry on a discussion with the students. Do you agree? Do you think an English course can be regarded as a recitation class? If not, proposing it as the equivalent of audytoryjne in the transcript in question (eg English course which calls for interactive and interpersonal activities) is not the best idea and I may have to look for a broader term.
Iwona Szymaniak Jan 9, 2011:
Przytoczona poniżej dyskusja dotyczy wprawdzie języka francuskiego, ale może pomoże. http://forumtlumaczy.pl/index.php?topic=25950.0
ćwiczenia audytoryjne to każda postać nauczania akademickiego, która ma na celu utrwalanie wiedzy zdobytej podczas wykładu i(lub) lektury zalecanych pozycji literatury, jak również kształcenia umiejętności praktycznego wykorzystania lub zastosowania tej wiedzy i nie odbywają się w terenie (ćwiczenia terenowe) lub laboratorium (ćwiczenia laboratoryjne). Szczególną formą ćwiczeń audytoryjnych jest lektorat językowy. Ćwiczenia audytoryjne mogą (lecz nie muszą) wymagać zaliczenia w postaci zdania kolokwium. Ćwiczeniem audytoryjnym będzie zatem również: seminarium dyplomowe, lektorat językowy. "Ćwiczenia audytoryjne mają na celu przede wszyktim przekazywanie umiejętności (wykłady - wiedzy), drogą rozwiązywania zadań praktycznych, oraz kształtowanie kompetencji, m.in. poprzez inicjowanie samodzielnie skonstruowanych wypowiedzi, udział w dyskusjach. Ćwiczenia audytoryjne są interaktywną formą zajęć." www.wseiz.pl/pliki/system_jakosci.pdf Ich nazwa pochodzi od słowa audire (słyszeć), ale mają się tu słyszeć obie strony: prowadzący i studenci, w odróżnieniu od wykładu. Tu studenci są głównie słuchaczami.
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Term If classes are accompanied by lectures, I'd go for the following: wykład - lecture, ćwiczenia - recitation class. If classes are not accompanied by lectures, I'd just use "CLASS."
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
recitation The recitations are done with smaller groups -- so the students can get more individual attention. In addition, in math or science classes, time can be spent working out solutions to problems, rather than spent on theory (which is usually done in the main class).
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Recitation Recitation classes are all about "interaction". Look at all the explanations provided in my answer box.
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Translation Since it's a language class, you can also give a shot at "INTERACTIVE SEMINAR", "COLLOQUIUM", etc. - whatever implies "interaction"...
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 8, 2011:
The thing is that doing your recitation class you just sit and enjoy the ride rather than study anything... Learning a language requires lots of interactivity....
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Language Classes I'm a university lecturer (ESL), and normally I have 20-30 students.
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Yes But as you know most college classes are large. In my German class there were 32 students...
adamgajlewicz (asker) Jan 8, 2011:
There's a slight problem because that graduate in question took a 60hour course in English and the course is also pigeonholed as these freaking "audytoryjne" classes. By no stretch of imagination can I imagine that guy picking up even a smattering of English in a hall crammed with battalions of other blokes....
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Confidence level The confidence level was supposed to have been 4...
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Def
Ćwiczenia audytoryjne rozwijają i ilustrują zagadnienia poruszane w ramach wykładu. Ćwiczenia audytoryjne (np. matematyka, ekonomia) prowadzone są w grupach około 30 osobowych.
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Page 3 in the above link
Darius Saczuk Jan 8, 2011:
Definition http://www.multimedia.edu.pl/teaching/ts_wyklad/files/TS Inf...

Proposed translations

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recitation class

Basically, recitation classes are for courses with a large class size or complicated material (like math or science). Usually these classes will have 1 professor and several student teachers. The professor will teach the large class (also called the Lecture) and cover new material. The student teachers will teach the recitation classes and go over the week's material in more detail. Because there is often a lot of material to cover in the large class, there isn't a lot of time to go over specifics or answer questions. The recitation class gives you the opportunity to address any questions or issues in a smaller classroom environment. Also, quizzes and homework are frequently given &/or collected during the recitation class...


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Note added at 14 mins (2011-01-08 13:47:33 GMT)
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http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q="recitation class...

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Note added at 17 mins (2011-01-08 13:50:35 GMT)
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recitation class is not just a rehash of the lecture but an opportunity for the students to grapple with problems they may not thoroughly understand, to broaden their knowledge of concepts understood the first time, and to give them some practice in applying the things they have learned.

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Note added at 20 mins (2011-01-08 13:53:48 GMT)
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At many universities the lectures are large and students don't have an opportunity to ask many questions.

The recitations are done with smaller groups -- so the students can get more individual attention. In addition, in math or science classes, time can be spent working out solutions to problems, rather than spent on theory (which is usually done in the main class).
Note from asker:
I think the answer you gave previously (class) http://www.proz.com/kudoz/polish_to_english/education_pedagogy/3911156-%C4%87wiczenia_audytoryjne.html is completely accurate and I'm going to add it to the glossary. Thank you.
Peer comment(s):
agree Michal Berski
19 hrs
Dzięki, Michal :-)
agree Iwona Szymaniak
20 hrs
Dzięki, Iwona :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you. This is a broader term which you offered a few months earlier and fits the bill."
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