Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
loyauté des preuves
English translation:
The reliability of the (forensic test) evidence.
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Heather Phillips
Dec 17, 2010 12:23
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loyauté des preuves
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An appeal document
This terms appears in an appeal document submitted in France. The appellant is claiming this as grounds for nullity of the lawsuit. "Sur la méconnaissance du principle de loyauté des preuves:" (it stands alone). "Attendu que ce moyen ne constitute pas une exception de nullité mais vise à contester la valeur probante d'un rapport confidentiel des services de renseignement écossais..." The appellant is Scottish and committed drug trafficking offences in Scotland and in the EU. Does anybody please know the English equivalent of this principle?
Many thanks.
Many thanks.
Proposed translations
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| 3 | The reliability of the (forensic test) evidence. |
Andrew Bramhall
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| 3 | improper gathering of material evidence |
Yvonne Gallagher
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| 3 | rules of evidence |
cc in nyc
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| 2 | "fair evidence" test |
AllegroTrans
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Proposed translations
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Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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United Kingdom
Flair and accuracy tailored to your text
Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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40
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The reliability of the (forensic test) evidence.
Scholarly articles for reliability of forensic test evidence
Admissibility of Scientific Evidence--An Alternative to … - Moenssens - Cited by 109
Modern scientific evidence - Faigman - Cited by 311
Are Juries Competent to Evaluate Statistical Evidence? - Thompson - Cited by 105
Admissibility of Scientific Evidence--An Alternative to … - Moenssens - Cited by 109
Modern scientific evidence - Faigman - Cited by 311
Are Juries Competent to Evaluate Statistical Evidence? - Thompson - Cited by 105
Note from asker:
| I just used "reliability of the evidence", which fits the bill perfectly. |
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: very unlikely. it's a Fr legal principle, not just loose words to be translated
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Well then, just leave out what I wrote in brackets, and the meaning should be general enough.
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AllegroTrans
: and nothing in the text suggests forensic evidence
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I only suggested that as a possibility, hence the parentheses.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, that sounds perfect."
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois)
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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1355
"fair evidence" test
I have not had time to read the French articles on this, so low CL
It seems from the asker's text to relate to the principle of only admitting evidence if it has been "fairly" obtained (e.g. not by torture or wire tapping).
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Submission for a Directive on a European Investigation Order ...
255k - Adobe PDF - View as html
It also addresses the root causes of injustice through broader research and ... 4 Is mutual recognition the right approach to fair evidence-gathering? ...
fairtrials.net/.../uploads/European-Investigation-Order.pdf
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[PDF]
There is fair evidence (level 2b) to support the use of ...
133k - Adobe PDF - View as html
There is fair evidence (level 2b) to support the use of. massage following surgical and ... massage in treating a variety of hand injuries, as it is beneficial in ...
www.otcats.com/topics/CAT-Kristen_Elvery.pdf
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Management in Practice - New GP revalidation "must be fair ...
The appraisal and revalidation of GPs must be fair, evidence-based and supported by robust mechanisms for doctors to challenge decisions that may ...
managementinpractice.com/article/12590/... - Cached
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U.S. Preventive Services Task Force: Screening for Genital ...
The USPSTF found at least fair evidence that [the service] improves important ... There is fair evidence that antiviral therapy in late pregnancy can reduce HSV ...
www.aafp.org/afp/2005/1015/p1557.html - 57k
It seems from the asker's text to relate to the principle of only admitting evidence if it has been "fairly" obtained (e.g. not by torture or wire tapping).
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[PDF]
Submission for a Directive on a European Investigation Order ...
255k - Adobe PDF - View as html
It also addresses the root causes of injustice through broader research and ... 4 Is mutual recognition the right approach to fair evidence-gathering? ...
fairtrials.net/.../uploads/European-Investigation-Order.pdf
#
[PDF]
There is fair evidence (level 2b) to support the use of ...
133k - Adobe PDF - View as html
There is fair evidence (level 2b) to support the use of. massage following surgical and ... massage in treating a variety of hand injuries, as it is beneficial in ...
www.otcats.com/topics/CAT-Kristen_Elvery.pdf
#
Management in Practice - New GP revalidation "must be fair ...
The appraisal and revalidation of GPs must be fair, evidence-based and supported by robust mechanisms for doctors to challenge decisions that may ...
managementinpractice.com/article/12590/... - Cached
#
U.S. Preventive Services Task Force: Screening for Genital ...
The USPSTF found at least fair evidence that [the service] improves important ... There is fair evidence that antiviral therapy in late pregnancy can reduce HSV ...
www.aafp.org/afp/2005/1015/p1557.html - 57k
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Ireland
Native in English
Specializes in field
Ireland
right word, right place. everytime
Native in: English (Variants: US, Canadian, Irish, UK)
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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102
improper gathering of material evidence
thanks to ref posted by writeaway and answer by Allegro Trans
this might be English equivalent.
the appelant could then claim an error of law, or say that all the material evidence was not presented properly to the court.
There are two types of errors, of fact and of law. An error of fact is drawing a false inference from evidence presented at the trial. An error of law is an erroneous determination of the legal rules governing procedure, evidence, or the matters at issue between the parties. Ordinarily, only errors of law may be reviewed in appeal. In an appeal from an action tried in equity, however, the appellate court passes on the entire record, both as to facts and law. Should the appeals court conclude that no error was committed, it will affirm the decision of the lower court. If it finds that there was error, it may direct a retrial or grant a judgment or decree in favor of the party who lost in the lower court. The determinations of appeals courts are usually printed, often with an opinion indicating the basis for the court's decisions. Such opinions are of great utility in guiding the inferior courts and are often cited as precedents in future cases.
An error of fact is drawing a false inference from evidence presented at the ..... An appellate court is a court that hears cases on appeal from another court. ... All parties must present grounds to appeal, or it will not be heard. ...
www.answers.com › ... › Literature & Language › Dictionary - Cached - Similar
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against improper gathering of evidence. Similarly, when the attic of homeowners X ..... subsequently find material evidence (an illegal weapon, narcotics), ...
arno.uvt.nl/show.cgi?fid=
by Court of Appeals, 1st Circuit - 1970 - Cited by 91 - Related articles
The Supreme Court recognized the viability of the 'improper purpose' defense in .... The Court held that evidence gathered under the warrant was admissible in the ... that the designated documents probably contained material evidence; ...
ftp.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/432/432.F2d.697.7627_1.html - Cached
However, there is no evidence in the record that the judge ordered The Post to return the ... In the instant case, the Court finds no material facts in dispute; .... It is the employment of improper means to procure the trade secret, ... court order or committed any other improper act in gathering information from ...
gozips.uakron.edu/~dratler/.../materials/lerma.htm - Cached - Similar
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"inadmissable evidence" could be a possibility?
this might be English equivalent.
the appelant could then claim an error of law, or say that all the material evidence was not presented properly to the court.
There are two types of errors, of fact and of law. An error of fact is drawing a false inference from evidence presented at the trial. An error of law is an erroneous determination of the legal rules governing procedure, evidence, or the matters at issue between the parties. Ordinarily, only errors of law may be reviewed in appeal. In an appeal from an action tried in equity, however, the appellate court passes on the entire record, both as to facts and law. Should the appeals court conclude that no error was committed, it will affirm the decision of the lower court. If it finds that there was error, it may direct a retrial or grant a judgment or decree in favor of the party who lost in the lower court. The determinations of appeals courts are usually printed, often with an opinion indicating the basis for the court's decisions. Such opinions are of great utility in guiding the inferior courts and are often cited as precedents in future cases.
An error of fact is drawing a false inference from evidence presented at the ..... An appellate court is a court that hears cases on appeal from another court. ... All parties must present grounds to appeal, or it will not be heard. ...
www.answers.com › ... › Literature & Language › Dictionary - Cached - Similar
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-12-17 14:25:00 GMT)
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File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by MCD Embregts
against improper gathering of evidence. Similarly, when the attic of homeowners X ..... subsequently find material evidence (an illegal weapon, narcotics), ...
arno.uvt.nl/show.cgi?fid=
by Court of Appeals, 1st Circuit - 1970 - Cited by 91 - Related articles
The Supreme Court recognized the viability of the 'improper purpose' defense in .... The Court held that evidence gathered under the warrant was admissible in the ... that the designated documents probably contained material evidence; ...
ftp.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/432/432.F2d.697.7627_1.html - Cached
However, there is no evidence in the record that the judge ordered The Post to return the ... In the instant case, the Court finds no material facts in dispute; .... It is the employment of improper means to procure the trade secret, ... court order or committed any other improper act in gathering information from ...
gozips.uakron.edu/~dratler/.../materials/lerma.htm - Cached - Similar
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"inadmissable evidence" could be a possibility?
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
: as it is a "principle" (see asker's text) it is unlikely to commence with "improper"
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you could be right:-)
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rules of evidence
Reference is a summary of the rules of evidence.
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For comparison with the links posted by writeaway in the discussion and reference entries.
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Here are the rules of evidence for New Hampshire, in a different format: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/rules/evid/index.htm
Basically, these are the rules that govern the admissibility of evidence at criminal hearings and trials.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-12-17 15:13:42 GMT)
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For comparison with the links posted by writeaway in the discussion and reference entries.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-12-17 15:18:55 GMT)
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Here are the rules of evidence for New Hampshire, in a different format: http://www.courts.state.nh.us/rules/evid/index.htm
Basically, these are the rules that govern the admissibility of evidence at criminal hearings and trials.
Reference comments
1 hr
Reference:
Interdiction des modes de preuve déloyaux
Le principe de loyauté dans la recherche de la preuve interdit l'utilisation de procédés déloyaux, de ruses ou de stratagèmes en vue de réunir des éléments de preuve.
Le droit impose une certaine loyauté dans la recherche de la preuve par les magistrats (Cass, 31 janvier 1888, déloyauté d'une procédure où un juge d'instruction avait téléphoné à un suspect pour obtenir des éléments de preuve sans mentionner sa qualité), par les policiers agissant sous commission rogatoire (Crim. 12 juin 1952, déloyauté dans une procédure où un policier avait organisé une conversation téléphonique, en dictant les questions et les réponses d'un des intervenants), et de manière plus relative lorsque la Police Judiciaire agit en enquête de police.
Dans le cadre de l'enquête, la jurisprudence française et européenne a en effet consacré la solution plus souple de l'absence de la provocation policière. dans l'arrêt CEDH, 1998, Teixera c/ Portugal, la Cour autorise le recours à l'infiltration si la technique est justifiée par la nature de l'infraction (ici, le trafic de stupéfiant) et si l'agent infiltré ne provoque pas lui-même la commission de l'infraction.
En revanche, concernant la preuve administrée par une partie, la loyauté de la preuve n'est pas exigée dès lors qu'ils peuvent être discutés de manière contradictoire : ainsi, Crim. 30 mars 1999, des enregistrements téléphoniques réalisés par un particulier à l'insu de l'auteur, ainsi, Crim, 11 juin 2002, des testing de l'association SOS Racisme.Par principe, l'obtention d'une preuve par la commission d'un infraction, si elle ne rend pas la première irrecevable, doit entraîner des poursuites contre la personne concernée, sauf si la commission de cette infraction a été nécéssaire à l'exercice de ses droits de la défense.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preuve_en_droit_pénal_français
Le principe de loyauté dans la recherche de la preuve interdit l'utilisation de procédés déloyaux, de ruses ou de stratagèmes en vue de réunir des éléments de preuve.
Le droit impose une certaine loyauté dans la recherche de la preuve par les magistrats (Cass, 31 janvier 1888, déloyauté d'une procédure où un juge d'instruction avait téléphoné à un suspect pour obtenir des éléments de preuve sans mentionner sa qualité), par les policiers agissant sous commission rogatoire (Crim. 12 juin 1952, déloyauté dans une procédure où un policier avait organisé une conversation téléphonique, en dictant les questions et les réponses d'un des intervenants), et de manière plus relative lorsque la Police Judiciaire agit en enquête de police.
Dans le cadre de l'enquête, la jurisprudence française et européenne a en effet consacré la solution plus souple de l'absence de la provocation policière. dans l'arrêt CEDH, 1998, Teixera c/ Portugal, la Cour autorise le recours à l'infiltration si la technique est justifiée par la nature de l'infraction (ici, le trafic de stupéfiant) et si l'agent infiltré ne provoque pas lui-même la commission de l'infraction.
En revanche, concernant la preuve administrée par une partie, la loyauté de la preuve n'est pas exigée dès lors qu'ils peuvent être discutés de manière contradictoire : ainsi, Crim. 30 mars 1999, des enregistrements téléphoniques réalisés par un particulier à l'insu de l'auteur, ainsi, Crim, 11 juin 2002, des testing de l'association SOS Racisme.Par principe, l'obtention d'une preuve par la commission d'un infraction, si elle ne rend pas la première irrecevable, doit entraîner des poursuites contre la personne concernée, sauf si la commission de cette infraction a été nécéssaire à l'exercice de ses droits de la défense.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preuve_en_droit_pénal_français
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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AllegroTrans
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| agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
: merci
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