Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Selbstleben
English translation:
(individual) autonomy
Added to glossary by
Andy S
Apr 29, 2010 17:38
14 yrs ago
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German term
Selbstleben
German to English
Other
Philosophy
Platonism
"Er (Augustine) durchbricht aber diesen Kreis (den Gedanken-Kreise der Platonnismus) und eröffney neue Bahnen, indem das Verlangen nach mehr Kraft und Selbstleben ihn den Kern der Seele nicht mehr im Erkennen, sondern im Wollen suchen heisst."
This is all the context I have.
This is all the context I have.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +5 | (individual) autonomy |
philgoddard
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| 4 | life of a self /self-life |
Liliana Galiano
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| 3 | awareness of self |
Gabriella Bertelmann
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References
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casper (X)
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| Full version is available here: |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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| = "die Kraft an und für sich zu bewegen |
Jim Tucker (X)
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Proposed translations
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philgoddard
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Related KudoZ points
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12
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(individual) autonomy
Or self-determination, or self-reliance.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Phil |
Peer comment(s):
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Johanna Timm, PhD
: based on the overall context (quoted in the reference section) this fits well. The author uses "Selbstleben" also when referring to Nietzsche and other 'modern' philosophers ( i.e. it's not an 'Augustine'-specific term)
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Thanks Johanna.
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Elisabeth Kissel
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Thanks.
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Jim Tucker (X)
: (Plz. see ref. posted below)
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Good reference. Thanks.
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gangels (X)
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Thank you.
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Nicole Backhaus
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thankyou Phil"
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Liliana Galiano
Argentina
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life of a self /self-life
ABSTRACT OF DISSERTATION Gilbert Vasile Lepadatu The Graduate ...
de GV Lepadatu - 2009 - Las 2 versiones
In other words, life is always the life of a self: a self-life (Selbstleben). Life is indeed carrying out, effectuation, but by no means impersonal, ...
archive.uky.edu/bitstream/10225/1059/Lepadatu.pdf
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http://74.125.155.132/scholar?q=cache:GSPIHw-crygJ:scholar.g...
Note from asker:
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Peer comment(s):
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Jim Tucker (X)
: Pretty much only a Heideggerian would translate it like this, to make the provenance clear. It's a practical solution in that context but otherwise very 20th-century, and hence an anachronism for Augustine. // "autonomy" is also a philosophical term.
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Philosophical language should be used and not ordinary, everyday language.
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Gabriella Bertelmann
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awareness of self
"Er (Augustine) durchbricht aber diesen Kreis (den Gedanken-Kreise der Platonnismus) und eröffney neue Bahnen, indem das Verlangen nach mehr Kraft und Selbstleben ihn den Kern der Seele nicht mehr im Erkennen, sondern im Wollen suchen heisst."
individual awareness or awareness of self would be my suggestion, this is tricky though
individual awareness or awareness of self would be my suggestion, this is tricky though
Note from asker:
| Thankyou |
Peer comment(s):
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Jim Tucker (X)
: needs to be in the same category as "Kraft" -- in other words, it's active. The passage specifically says that this quality goes beyond recognition into more active will. In other words, it's something stronger than self-awareness.
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Reference comments
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Reference:
HTH
Life, which we ourselves are, is always “my life”, “your life”, “our life” etc. Life is always somebody’s life. In other words, life is always the life of a self: a self-life (Selbstleben).
http://lib.uky.edu/ETD/ukyphil2009d00969/Lepadatu.pdf
http://lib.uky.edu/ETD/ukyphil2009d00969/Lepadatu.pdf
Note from asker:
| Thanks Jennifer |
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Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Canada
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Works in: English to German, German to English, German
Related KudoZ points
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28
Reference:
Full version is available here:
http://www.archive.org/stream/dielebensanscha01euckgoog/diel...
Titel: Die Lebensanschauungen der grossen Denker
Eine Entwicklungseschichte des Lebensproblems
der Menschheit von Plato bis zur Gegenwart
Autor: Rudolf Eucken
Fünfte umgearbeitete Auflage, Verlag von Veit & Comp, in Leipzig
1904
Titel: Die Lebensanschauungen der grossen Denker
Eine Entwicklungseschichte des Lebensproblems
der Menschheit von Plato bis zur Gegenwart
Autor: Rudolf Eucken
Fünfte umgearbeitete Auflage, Verlag von Veit & Comp, in Leipzig
1904
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Reference:
= "die Kraft an und für sich zu bewegen
...und eine gewisse Richtung anzunehmen"
http://books.google.hu/books?id=VA5hbLVIFf8C&pg=PA373&lpg=PA...
http://books.google.hu/books?id=VA5hbLVIFf8C&pg=PA373&lpg=PA...
Discussion
http://tinyurl.com/38hl5rf tells us Augustine was a Christian philosopher.