Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

феодальная раздробленность

English translation:

feudal disunion

Added to glossary by zmejka
Apr 4, 2010 18:25
14 yrs ago
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Russian term

феодальная разобщенность

Russian to English Art/Literary History
пожалуйста, не предлагайте feudal disunity, все ссылки ведут на русскоязычные сайты, это всегда плохой знак

контекст
В период феодальной раздробленности в XIV-XVII веках Анакопия утрачивает свое политическое и экономическое значение, а во время турецкой оккупации полностью обезлюдела.

Discussion

Victor Zagria Apr 4, 2010:
2Rachel disunION, imho, conveys the idea of разобщенность best here (just insinuating myself into your good graces, Rachel-;))
Rachel Douglas Apr 4, 2010:
2Victor I don't know where you got the idea that "fragmentation" was mechanical or strictly geographical (though it certainly includes the latter, and that is true about feudalism). The point I was making about geographical/political vs. spiritual was to stress that "disunity" would be inadequate, whereas "disunion" would be one option here.
Victor Zagria Apr 4, 2010:
"раздробленность" imho, doesn't necessarily imply mechanical 'division' or merely geographical 'fragmentation'. Some sort of politicalethnic confrontation is the point at issue, isn't it?
zmejka (asker) Apr 4, 2010:
раздробленность, не разобщенность это я ошиблась

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fragmentation OR disunion

Regarding "disunion," that is the English word you'd use for a state of being geographically or politically broken up, whereas "disunity" is more of a spiritual condition.

With either of these choices, it would be better to use some formulation like "the fragmentation typical of [associated with] [caused by] feudalism" or "fragmentation under feudalism," than "feudal fragmentation."

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... although many authors, found by Judith's search, disagree with me on that last point.
Peer comment(s):

agree gutbuster : feudal patchwork
10 hrs
Thank you.
agree Victor Zagria : yeah, ..disunion
15 hrs
Thanks, Victor.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "всем большое спасибо за ваши варианты! "
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feudal division

http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:A5rtM726DzIJ:dic.academi...


У вас в тексте раздробленность
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feudal disunity (feudal division)

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В принципе, проблемы нет. В эл. словаре Lingvo X3 дан именно такой перевод:


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Feudal disunity and internecine strife hindered the economic and cultural progress and considerably weakened the defense capacity of the Kazakh states. ...
It was the rule by a people who had already overcome feudal disunity of their country based on feudal economy and integrated themselves into a modern nation ...
И т. д.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lina Episheva
7 mins
Спасибо!
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feudal dissociation

Russian History - Российская история - Russian Language Lessons
(152k) XI-XIII века известны как период феодальной раздробленности на Руси. ... XI-XIII centuries are familiar as a period of feudal dissociation in Russia. ...
www.russianlessons.net/articles/russianhistory.php

Просто еще один вариант. Качество перевода по ссылке не очень...
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feudal fragmentation

This might be what you are looking for.

http://www.google.com/search?q=feudal fragmentation&ie=utf-8...
Peer comment(s):

agree Angela Greenfield
3 mins
Thank you, Angela.
agree DTSM : 100 per cent on that
55 mins
Thanks, Dimak.
agree Andrew Stefanovsky
10 hrs
Thank you, Andrew.
agree Olga Cartlidge
16 hrs
Thank you, Olga.
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feudal feuds


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feud
Feud
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Look up feud in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
A feud (pronounced /ˈfjuːd/) (referred to in more extreme cases as a blood feud or vendetta or faida) is a long-running argument or fight between parties—often, through association fallacy, groups of people, especially families or clans. Feuds begin because one party (correctly or incorrectly) perceives itself to have been attacked, insulted or wronged by another. Intense feelings of resentment trigger the initial revenge, which causes the other party to feel equally aggrieved and vengeful. The dispute is subsequently fuelled by a long-running cycle of retaliatory violence. This continual cycle of provocation and retaliation makes it extremely difficult to end the feud peacefully. Feuds frequently involve the original parties' family members and/or associates, can last for generations and may result in extreme acts of violence.

Until the early modern period, feuds were considered legitimate legal instruments and were regulated to some degree. Once modern centralizing states asserted and enforced a monopoly on legitimate use of force, feuds became illegal and the concept acquired its current negative connotation.

like 'family feuds', you know..
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feudal discord

- opposte of "concord", "consensus" or"harmony".
http://lhomulo.ulim.md/wp-content/uploads/2009/C/RENAISSANCE...

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Then - "Feudal Fractuation":
http://books.google.com/books?id=sY9AAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA266&lpg=P...
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1 day 20 mins

feudal disjunction

In other words an aglomeration of disjointed fiefdoms or "feuds".
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