Michael C Sep 24, 2009:

penangkaran means 'breeding' does it not? doesn't penangkaran mean 'breeding'?

Arfan Achyar Sep 23, 2009:

once more, be careful with back-translation whatever the KBBI says, it is not the holy book. KBBI merely gathers what people use in the language and the dictionary should be treated as such.

Understand first what the word "hybridise" says then find the equivalent word or phrase in Bahasa Indonesia which will be translated back into the original word. remember, we, the translators have the obligations to preserve the original meaning of the source words, not just trying to find the most glorified word since a glorified dictionary says so and at the same time trying to make the readers understand.
to hybridise = menghasilkan hibrida. berkembang biak? can be.
but not melakukan persilangan.

in captivity = dalam penangkaran. dalam kurungan? not necessary. the word kurungan conjurs up the image of a chicken inside a cage or a convict behind bar.

remember: back-translation.

Wiyanto Suroso Sep 23, 2009:

Mas Rizky, silakan periksa KBBI. 2tang•kar v, me•nang•kar•kan v 1 membiakkan; menetaskan: orang Indonesia sudah dapat ~ burung perkutut Bangkok yg disilangkan dng burung perkutut lokal; 2 menggandakan;
pe•nang•kar n 1 orang yg mengembangbiakkan (ternak, tanaman); 2 orang yg menggandakan;
pe•nang•kar•an n 1 tempat (perusahaan) pembiakan; 2 proses, cara, perbuatan menangkarkan (membiakkan): hasil yg diperolehnya dr ~ burung itu dapat meningkatkan kehidupan keluarganya; 3 perbanyakan; penggandaan

2si•lang v 1 kawin campur (bukan sesuku, segolongan, dsb); 2 membibitkan dng mencampur (tt tumbuh-tumbuhan);
-- dalam Bio perkawinan antara individu-individu yg masih memiliki pertalian keluarga yg dekat yg dapat meningkatkan jumlah ras tanaman atau hewan;
me•nyi•lang•kan v 1 mengadakan kawin campur (tt hewan); 2 membibitkan tumbuhan secara silang;
per•si•lang•an n Bio usaha yg menyebabkan terjadinya perkawinan antara dua individu yg berbeda galur, ras, atau jenisnya;
pe•nyi•lang•an n proses, cara, perbuatan menyilangkan

http://pusatbahasa.diknas.go.id/kbbi/index.php

Arfan Achyar Sep 23, 2009:

be careful with back-translation as I said before, when we translate, be careful with back-translation since we should not be too "creative" in translating. We should stick with the original word. The phrase "berkembang biak" or "pengembangbiakan" for that matter, IMHO, is more acceptable than "melakukan persilangan" since that phrase can be back-translated far away from the original word "to hybridise." As for the word "bastar," even though the word is listed in KBBI, we should consider the understanding of the readers. Would they understand what "bastar" means?

Wiyanto Suroso Sep 23, 2009:

melakukan persilangan dalam penangkaran Pada hakikatnya, “penangkaran” sama dengan “pengembangbiakan” atau “perbanyakan”. “Hybridize” mestinya ialah “melakukan persilangan”. Setelah saya perhatikan berbagai rujukan lagi, barangkali “hybridise in captivity” lebih tepat diterjemahkan sebagai “melakukan persilangan dalam penangkaran”.

Arfan Achyar Sep 23, 2009:

"menghasilkan hibrida" can mean "berkembang biak" since "to hybridise" means to produce a hybrid. in a sense, it can be translated into "berkembang biak"; besides my suggestion of course. I am concerned with the back-translation should you tend to translate the word "hybridise" as "berkembang biak." "berkembang biak" can mean "to propagate" and the word loses the original source word; to hybridise.

rizky wirastomo (asker) Sep 23, 2009:

So do you think it's the best if we use 'berkembang biak dalam penangkaran'? :)

Arfan Achyar Sep 23, 2009:

Mas Rizky, please take a look what www.dictionary.com has to say about the word "hybridise."

–verb (used without object)
4. to produce hybrids.
5. to cause the production of hybrids by crossing.
6. to form a double-stranded nucleic acid of two single strands of DNA or RNA, or one of each, by allowing the base pairs of the separate strands to form complementary bonds.
7. to fuse two cells of different genotypes into a hybrid cell.

besides what I suggested to you, I would go with "berkembang biak" as the equivalent of the word "hybridise."

rizky wirastomo (asker) Sep 23, 2009:

about 'bastar' and 'penangkaran' Personally, I agree with Mr Achyar. I think the 'captivity' should be translated to 'penangkaran'. However, I am indecisive on deciding the best translation to 'hybridise'. Is it 'berkembang biak' or 'membiak'?

In addition, I am working on a dissertation that is focusing on animal phylogeny. So I don't think Mr Laut's translation suits the overall context.