Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

пропуск-"вездеход"

English translation:

master permit

Added to glossary by Clive Wilshin
Jul 19, 2009 21:04
14 yrs ago
Russian term

пропуск-"вездеход"

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Следователи полагают, что для страховки от проверок на дорогах преступники использовали спецталон, запрещающий досматривать машины[...] Когда после обнаружения тела госпожи Эстемировой в Ингушетии был введен план-перехват и организована тотальная проверка всех машин, по данным МВД республики, водители чуть ли не каждой десятой из них предъявили пропуска-"вездеходы".

Vezdekhod is, I believe, usually an off-road vehicle or an "all-terrain vehicle" (vnedorozhnik). But here, surely, the meaning must be the same as the спецталон in the previous sentence? (Not sure exactly how to render that either --- "special card"? "Special tag?" "Special sticker"? Is it something you show to the police when they stop you or something you stick on the car itself?) The best I have been able to come up with for пропуск-вездеход is a "'Go-Where-You-Like' Pass." However, I just wanted to check that my interpretation is the correct one.

Discussion

Alexandra Taggart Jul 20, 2009:
In order to get through the airport you need "Everywhere" pass (or it has a stamp "Везде" or, rather, it could be a category).Level a/d/c category? A driver would need a security clearance document in order to cross over one way or both ways in the security area.There could be the combat cars only which can "go everywhere".http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/security.htm
Alexandra Taggart Jul 20, 2009:
The author is careful not to yack too thoughtlessly.He calles "вездеход" a military-police security post pass.This "вездеход" is a pass/permit for the crew in the airport as well as for the cleaner,"вездеход"can be necessary for the contract workers at chemical plant.That cannot be in that reality the text gives.All those at large and their lovely Joe The Uncatchable of Chechnia were driving backwards and forwards absolutely freely, the security never restricted their freedom of movement.
Victor Zagria Jul 20, 2009:
the ambiguity should be "blamed" - in my opinion - on the author of the article. As I understand the ways in the Russ Federation this spetztalon can provide for the whole array of possibilities including immunity from "dosmotr" by traffic police. The article's meant for the local readers so it's quite digestable for them, right, klp, a05? When a temporary Moscow resident in the late 90-s I noted that such passes were issued by Upravdielamy Presidenta to be attached on the screen windshield of your car and the traffic police officers were SALUTING at sight of such a car-believe it or not...
Mikhail Korolev Jul 20, 2009:
Clive, I think I've found something interesting:
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1342329.html
"On the windshield of [Arbi] Baraev's vehicle," journalist Anna Politkovskaya has noted, "there was a pass, regularly renewed, which stated that the driver was free 'to go everywhere' -- the most cherished and respected pass in the Combined Group of [Russian] Forces."
http://zalozhniki.ru/comment/59093.html
"На лобовом стекле машины [Арби] Бараева, - замечает журналистка Анна Политковская, - регулярно обновлялись пропуска-"вездеходы" — самые заветные и уважаемые, какие только есть в [российской] объединенной группировке войск".(
a05 Jul 20, 2009:
Untouchable or unrestricted access? The logic of the story suggests that they had "untouchable" IDs -- no question asked, no exposure to penalties. However, пропуск-вездеход in general does not mean that much. It embodies only a right to enter any area, even restricted for others.
Alexandra Taggart Jul 19, 2009:
I'm not sure but It was military who gave these "passes" or "permits" as a printed standard form .They do not have this category "Внедорожник", they have listed "Вездеход"only.Private car drivers were getting passes as a combat truckers.
Mikhail Korolev Jul 19, 2009:
I'm sorry, Victor, but it seems that you didn't bother to read the first article:

Пропуск-вездеход
«Общественным гаишником» можно стать за 8—9 тысяч рублей, а «сотрудником прокуратуры» и вовсе бесплатно

I hope that you are able to read the article.

Если вы всё же не сможете осилить статью, подскажу: Она как раз именно о том, о чём вы написали (No fines ever and traffic cops all smiling)
Victor Zagria Jul 19, 2009:
monkey show for free (costless) by this you definitely mean, klp, that the paper gives access to restricted areas whereto access for ordinary people is prohibited... But the implication emphesised (see the asker's context) that the bloody thing makes you untouchable... No fines ever and traffic cops all smiling..:)
Mikhail Korolev Jul 19, 2009:
Clive, I think these two articles below can help you to understand the meaning of пропуск-вездеход:

http://www.novayagazeta.ru/data/2008/42/09.html

http://www.ural.ru/news/life/news-62737.html
Среди лиц, задержанных по подозрению в подготовке террактов на пассажирских самолетах, есть сотрудник аэропорта "Хитроу". В его распоряжении был так называемый пропуск-вездеход, с помощью которого можно было попасть в любую часть аэровокзала.

It is a document you show to police officers or other officers and it gives you permission to enter a certain place or go through, for example, a police post. It can be a real document (as in the second article) or it can be a false one (as in the first article)
Victor Zagria Jul 19, 2009:
"Go-Where-Y..." has been very nicely worded but regrettably it does not fit the above context. It (your guess) should rather be used regards 'spetz'-flashers (migalki) and 'spetz'-number plates (krutiye nomera)..<br>In the context you have 'I-don't-care-a s--t' pass is meant (ohrannaya gramota as in Old Rus) that orders any police-traffic officer to let you go saying 'bon voyage', SIR and have a nice day, sir...(:+))

Proposed translations

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master permit

a more common collocation is "ключ-вездеход" - master key
Peer comment(s):

agree Victor Zagria : looks a very nice guess to me, too
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Thank you, Viktor.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "It does seem coined by the analogy you give, so I like this version best."
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"out-of-my-way" pass

just a guess - :)
Peer comment(s):

agree Sergei Belay : или "I-go-where-I-want" pass :)
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дякую, пане Сергій!!
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free access pass

http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/domino/Web_Notes/newmedia....

CFA and Victorian State Emergency Service (VICSES) volunteers will receive a free access pass to all Victorian national parks as a thank you for protecting Victoria from emergencies.


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http://www.thanedirect.co.uk/products/housewares/perfectdog/...

Wise was so well trained that she had a "free access" pass inside the marine park.
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a pass for the"off-road" car class

Jeeps, military jeeps, combat trucks and those:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159428
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certificate of immunity

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As I see from the context, this document protects its holder from his vehicle being searched, therefore, it is an immunity document
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free conduct pass or free-conduct pass

This is the closest thing I can think of in English, a document that allows one to travel unhindered through checkpoints in uncertain territory. Tosca bargains for these with Baron Scarpia if you know the opera: http://music.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/9809_tosca/s...

True the term is not often used except in periods of civil unrest or wartime, but I did find a usage to get through a checkpoint during a strike:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome,_Pennsylvania

The semantic meaning is the same, only the context is usually different, but depending on your document the meaning of "no stops, no question" should come across.
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"passe-partout" permit

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