Jun 18, 2009 18:42
14 yrs ago
Japanese term
ふくざつさを複雑さのままに
Japanese to English
Art/Literary
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
彼女によるとフェミニズムとナショナリズムとの間には「ふくざつな関係」がある。そのふくざつさを複雑さのままに検討することが本橋の課題である。
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | in itself/as such |
Geraldine Oudin
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| 4 +1 | Leave that complication as is |
humbird
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| 2 +2 | as a whole |
cinefil
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| 3 | (analyze) the complicated relationship as it is |
Chie Kobayashi
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Proposed translations
9 hrs
Geraldine Oudin
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Low Stress Solutions
Native in: French 
Works in: Japanese to French, English to French
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
in itself/as such
another idea, even though the English is approximate : study this complexity (in/for) itself
OR
study this complexity as such
OR
study this complexity as such
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks"
+1
27 mins
Leave that complication as is
First of all, there are typo in this short sentence, which leads to following question, but the typo issue first ......
本橋 is not right, it should be corrected to 本稿.
What this typo makes me feel apprehensive about your quoted sentence is whether the first part of ふくざつ of "ふくざつさを複雑さのままに" was in original, and not another typo of 複雑さをふくざつさのままに.
Or the author wanted to make it in Hiragana for purpose of some emphasis.
Now let's tackle the question as is by setting the apprehension aside. Then I came up with this answer.
HTH
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Note added at 30 mins (2009-06-18 19:12:38 GMT)
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Sorry there is a typo issue in my part as well (Copa Mia!)
"and not another typo of 複雑さをふくざつさのままに." in my above sentence should be replaced with
複雑さを複雑さのままに
本橋 is not right, it should be corrected to 本稿.
What this typo makes me feel apprehensive about your quoted sentence is whether the first part of ふくざつ of "ふくざつさを複雑さのままに" was in original, and not another typo of 複雑さをふくざつさのままに.
Or the author wanted to make it in Hiragana for purpose of some emphasis.
Now let's tackle the question as is by setting the apprehension aside. Then I came up with this answer.
HTH
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Note added at 30 mins (2009-06-18 19:12:38 GMT)
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Sorry there is a typo issue in my part as well (Copa Mia!)
"and not another typo of 複雑さをふくざつさのままに." in my above sentence should be replaced with
複雑さを複雑さのままに
Note from asker:
| thankyou for pointing out the typo. It is indeed 本稿 not 本橋. However the rest of the sentence appears just as I have posted it. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Yumico Tanaka (X)
: I think it depends on how the translator makes the whole sentence in the context, but I think this answer is good.
1 day 10 hrs
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+2
2 hrs
as a whole
an idea
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Note added at 2時間 (2009-06-18 21:31:25 GMT)
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or:in comprehensive percepective
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Note added at 2時間 (2009-06-18 21:41:29 GMT)
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要するに、
○木を見て森を見ず：細かい点を注意し過ぎて大きく全体をつかまない。（広辞苑）
ということのないように、という意味ではないですか。
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Note added at 2時間 (2009-06-18 21:31:25 GMT)
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or:in comprehensive percepective
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Note added at 2時間 (2009-06-18 21:41:29 GMT)
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要するに、
○木を見て森を見ず：細かい点を注意し過ぎて大きく全体をつかまない。（広辞苑）
ということのないように、という意味ではないですか。
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
gcpradhan1
: How about "Instead of going into too much details"?
6 hrs
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Thanks a lot.
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| agree |
Nobuo Kameyama
: フェミニズムとナショナリズムの関係を、「ふくざつ」と表現しているのは、筆者なりの意図があるはずです。つまり、両者は「根底で繋がっている部分がある」と筆者は伝えたいのでは？ http://y-sonoda.asablo.jp/blog/2009/06/19/4377131#c4381728 その意味で、両者の共通した根っ子の部分を見ようと、筆者が云いたいのだとすれば、cinefilさんの「木を見て森を見ず」が良いと思います。ともあれ、この本（記事？）を一読してみないことには、何とも言えないですね。
2 days 33 mins
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ありがとうございます、一連の質問に答えるにはこの記事／論文？全体を読まないと心もとないですね
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6 hrs
Chie Kobayashi
Japan
Japan
Native in Japanese
Japan
Professional, reliable and creative.
Native in: Japanese 
Works in: English to Japanese, Japanese to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
(analyze) the complicated relationship as it is
あくまでそのまま訳しましたが、文として自然に流れるかと思います。
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