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Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

canalizador por conta da queixosa

English translation:

a conduit on behalf of the complainant

Added to glossary by Marlene Curtis
Mar 4, 2009 19:17
15 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

canalizador por conta da queixosa

Portuguese to English Law/Patents Law (general)
In "Auto de inquiracao de testemunha" the witness acts "na qualidade de canalizador por conta da queixosa".

'Queixosa' is obviously 'a complainant', but what about the rest?

The whole sentence reads as follows:
"Acerca dos factos denunciados no auto em referencia, o(a) ora depoente, na qualidade de canalizador por conta da queixosa, declarou ter conhecimento directo do seguinte: ... ."

I'll be grateful for your brilliant suggestions.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +1 a conduit on behalf of the complainant
4 +4 plumber hired by the complainant/plaintiff
4 agent/proxy acting for the plaintiff
Change log

Mar 11, 2009 20:47: Marlene Curtis Created KOG entry

Discussion

Marlene Curtis Mar 4, 2009:
"Channelizer", pelo que sei, não é usado figurativamente.
Marlene Curtis Mar 4, 2009:
Mas Proxy, conforme a sugestão acima do colega, tem poderes muito mais amplos, pelo que sei.
proxy
s. mandatário; substituto; procurador; solicitador
Marlene Curtis Mar 4, 2009:
channelize (Amer.)
v. canalizar, focalizar, direcionar
A palavra "canalizador" em português realmente só é usada como sinônimo de bombeiro. Canalizar significa conduzir, direcionar, agir como um condutor. Baseada nesta idéia, escolhi o termo conduit.
Gilmar Fernandes Mar 4, 2009:
I rest my case then. It's a very weird usage of the word. Maybe someone more familiar with this type of legalese used in Portugal could help. The document is from Portugal, correct ?
anula (asker) Mar 4, 2009:
The proceedings unfortunately have nothing to do with plumbing. We are talking about proceedings for payment (of an invoice, not for plumbing services ;-) ), so as Marlene noticed, we have to look for a figurative meaning.
Gilmar Fernandes Mar 4, 2009:
I did an extensive search in most major Portuguese language dictionaries and could not find any other meaning for the word "canalizador" besides related to plumbing. Approx. 145 thousand hits in Google for the word http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=en&q=
Marlene Curtis Mar 4, 2009:
Canalizador (channalizer, literally) is someone acting as a conduit on behalf of somebody else.
kashew Mar 4, 2009:
Plumber looks logical if the case concerns water etc. but if not, it could possibly be just an agent/proxy acting on behalf of the plaintiff.

Proposed translations

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a conduit on behalf of the complainant

Se seu contexto não se refere a bombeiros.


a channelizer is someone who acts as a conduit (condutor)

[DOC] INDUCEMENTS – CASE STUDY 5 File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
Having been to a recent SHCOG talk where he was too busy playing with his Blackberry to ... successfully argue that it is being provided to a person acting on behalf of the client. ... or the other person is merely acting as a conduit. ...
www.european-compliance.com/Library/MMs/200712CS5.doc -

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-04 20:46:57 GMT)
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[DOC] battered women shelter File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
The court in Azzarello noted that “[t]he lawyer who renders the service ... As the court noted, “if a lawyer is compensated from a source other than his client, he may ... Here, the Shelter will be acting largely as a conduit and will obtain no ... independent professional judgment solely on behalf of the client. ...
www.mobar.org/formal/Formal Opinion 121 (2).DOC

conduit = channel
Peer comment(s):
agree Anna Black (X) : Taking into account the clarification discussion above, this sounds convincing.
18 hrs
Thanks!
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for this fruitful conversation and your suggestions. This proposal suits best the context of my document."
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plumber hired by the complainant/plaintiff

my suggestion :)

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Note added at 20 mins (2009-03-04 19:38:06 GMT)
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this is a term more popular in Portugal, not Brazil, so I'm using a reference from PT-PT dictionary:
Dicionário de Lingua Portuguesa - Editora Porto
canalizador
nome masculinoindivíduo que se encarrega de trabalhos de instalação e reparação de canalizações, assim como de caleiras, aparelhos sanitários, cilindros, máquinas de lavar, etc.
http://www.infopedia.pt/pesquisa?qsFiltro=14

por conta = on account of, hired by and so on

"queixosa" you already knew the meaning
Peer comment(s):
agree rhandler
36 mins
Thanks Ralph :)
agree Maria José Tavares (X)
45 mins
Thanks again Maria José!
agree Cristiana Veleda
1 hr
Thanks Cristiana :)
agree Floriana Leary
3 hrs
Thanks Floriana :)
agree Alexandra Gouveia
15 hrs
Thanks Alexa :-))
disagree kashew : I put it very clearly, first in, at 21.39 yesterday. AGENT/PROXY I said. The resulting discussion was very interesting and my "Watergate" reference might have made a few people smile in addition.
15 hrs
I don't think this a place for jokes. We are here to help our fellow translators. Why don't you propose your translation for this then ?/ Why don't you enter that in an Answer format then ? (it wasn't clear in the clarification area)
neutral Marlene Curtis : Please, refer to the discussion above. Nothing to do with plumbers!/Nothing Gilmar, I am just making a statement. People are not reading the discussion thread.
17 hrs
Good Morning Marlene. Yes, we had this discussion yesterday and I said "I rest my case" what else would like me to do now ?
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agent/proxy acting for the plaintiff

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