Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Frais de mutation
English translation:
real estate transfer tax
French term
Frais de mutation
Ensemble des frais et droits consécutifs à l'établissement d'une vente immobilière. Les frais d'acquisition sont constitués pour l'essentiel de différents droits, taxes, impôts et frais d'obtention de pièces administratives, et pour une part moins importante par les honoraires du notaire. Les frais d'acquisition sont réduits lorsqu'il s'agit d'un bien à usage d'habitation (environ 9 à 13%), et pleins lorsqu'il s'agit d'immobilier à usage professionnel (environ 20% ou TVA). Lors de l'achat dans le neuf (immeuble de moins de 5 ans), la vente est dite "sans frais de notaire", c'est-à-dire que les frais sont de l'ordre de 3%.
| 4 +1 | real estate transfer tax |
Béatrice Sylvie Lajoie
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| 5 +1 | conveyancing costs {charges + taxes} |
Adrian MM. (X)
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| 4 | Frais de mutation/droit de mutation = land transfer tax |
Jean-Claude Gouin
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Proposed translations
Master's degree in Law, accurate
Native in: French 
, English
Works in: Italian to French, English to French
real estate transfer tax
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Note added at 32 mins (2008-12-14 09:38:02 GMT)
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If it refers to the droit de mutation. In this case, it seems more general, maybe : TRANSFER CHARGES or CHARGES RELATIONG TO TRANSFER
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Note added at 37 mins (2008-12-14 09:42:53 GMT)
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TRANSFER RELATED CHARGES
conveyancing costs {charges + taxes}
IATE: transfer costs is too literal though, in the UK, there is a transfer doc. for regd. land and a purchase deed for unregd. land.
NB conveyancing is not just of land, but can encompass chattels like a painting or a motor car.
Consumer Claims about Conveyancing Costs. Under Part 4 of the Conveyancers Licensing Act 2003. The CTTT brochure ‘What happens at the Tribunal? ...
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: it's just the transfer fees/charges. and it's not land in the context/yes I read it CAREFULLY. that's why I know it's not land. it's all the transfer charges/fees .
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Have you read the question CAREFULLY? 'Ensemble des *frais et droits* consécutifs à l'établissement d'une vente *immobilière*.
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AllegroTrans
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Merci!
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Native in: French
Works in: French to English, English to French, French, and 1 more.
Frais de mutation/droit de mutation = land transfer tax
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Note added at 7 heures (2008-12-14 16:32:56 GMT)
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Here, in Canada, when you buy real estate or change the name of the name of the owner, the new owner has to pay a "droit de mutation" or a "land transfer tax". It's a source of revenue for the municipalities; it's an indirect tax. The real estate could be a building or a plot of land. Why 'land'? Why 'tax" That's what the powers that be decided to call it ... What can I say?
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Note added at 15 heures (2008-12-15 00:25:46 GMT)
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If one is talking about "CLOSING FEES", we would include the notary's fees in Québec (but lawyer's fees across the river in Ontario) and the "land transfer tax". There may be additional costs for the buyer that MAY apply in certain cases ... but are insignificant compared to the Land Transfer tax and the notary's fees.
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writeaway
: why land? and why tax?
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See above for more details ...
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AllegroTrans
: what about the notary's charges?
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Here, the notary's fees are not considered "closing fees" ...
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Reference comments
transfer
ref: Larousse, Collins, et alia
all list it as the meaning under the category 'juridique' or 'droit'
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Note added at 25 mins (2008-12-14 09:30:49 GMT)
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this is referring to the word 'mutation'
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AllegroTrans
: it means transfer, but the text goes on to exxplain that "frais" is referring to the total taxes payable, together with the notary's fees
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Béatrice Sylvie Lajoie
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