Apr 10, 2008 13:17
16 yrs ago
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Czech term

vytloukat klín klínem

Non-PRO Czech to English Other Idioms / Maxims / Sayings Idioms
Mostly in financial matters, but can be used even elsewhere.

Usually suggested translation:
"rob Peter to pay Paul"
But:
If you "drive out a wedge by another wedge",
you will end up with a wedge in
(and nobody else is involved).

If you "rob Peter to pay Paul"
Paul will end up with his money back,
Peter will end up robbed,
and you will end up with your debt paid (you might end up in prison, though).
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

PRO (2): Pavel Blann, vic voskuil

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Proposed translations

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58 mins
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rob Peter to pay Paul

I think this is the closest we can get.

See this description:
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/rob Peter to pay Paul
=> to borrow money from someone in order to give to someone else the money that you already owe them.
"Then I'd take out another loan to pay my debts, robbing Peter to pay Paul."

You suggested you would end up with a wedge in. In this case it's the same. You would end up in a debt anyway, except for the fact that you don't owe the money to Paul anymore but to Peter. You're not actually robbing anyone - you're just borrowing money from one person to give it to another person.
(Which seems to be quite a favorite activity in the Czech Republic) :-)

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Note added at 59 mins (2008-04-10 14:17:30 GMT)
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All dictionaries I've checked offer this version as the equivalent for the Czech saying.
Peer comment(s):

agree petr jaeger
21 hrs
thanks ;-)
agree Marek Buchtel : hey, you can't take idioms literally :-)
1 day 6 hrs
exactly ;-) thanks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, now that I know that they don't intend to rob me, I feel much better about the phrase."
42 mins

to shif a debt >

you are still in debt ...


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Note added at 43 mins (2008-04-10 14:01:18 GMT)
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shift not shif

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Note added at 1 hr (2008-04-10 14:19:58 GMT)
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also > " úvěr druhým úvěrem"....." brát si další úvěry "

v politike ... " pravici pravicí "...
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+1
2 hrs

nail drives out nail

jeden tip
Peer comment(s):

agree Pavel Blann : or: one fire drives out another
2 hrs
dakujem
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4 hrs

scrape by

or: scrape along
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11 hrs

dig a hole to fill a hole

hardly ever if at all used in a purely financial context, but might be useful in other situations
(pretty neat soundbite for an opposition party in politics for instance)
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