Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
la justice 'ordinaire'
English translation:
conventional justice
Added to glossary by
AllegroTrans
Dec 11, 2007 14:20
16 yrs ago
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French term
France
Accuracy & Professionalism
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, Chinese to English, Chinese
la justice 'ordinaire'
French to English
Social Sciences
Law (general)
Hello everybody,
This comes from the following sentence:
'Car cette punition automatique ne correspondait pas aux pratique de la justice 'ordinaire', pénale ou civile, toujours friande d'éléments circonstanciels et personnels'.
The general context is the World Anti-Doing Conference and the struggle between WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) and the signatories of the In ternational Anti)-Doping Code who for the large part don't follow code, particularly in relation to giving reduced or longer bans than those stipulated in the code (punition automatique). The CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) tries to settle disputes but often undermines the code itself as it follows ordinary(???), criminal and civil law that all take into account extenuating circumstances.
Thanks in advance for any help!
This comes from the following sentence:
'Car cette punition automatique ne correspondait pas aux pratique de la justice 'ordinaire', pénale ou civile, toujours friande d'éléments circonstanciels et personnels'.
The general context is the World Anti-Doing Conference and the struggle between WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) and the signatories of the In ternational Anti)-Doping Code who for the large part don't follow code, particularly in relation to giving reduced or longer bans than those stipulated in the code (punition automatique). The CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) tries to settle disputes but often undermines the code itself as it follows ordinary(???), criminal and civil law that all take into account extenuating circumstances.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | conventional justice |
AllegroTrans
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| 4 | common practice in sentencing and awarding damages |
Attorney DC Bar
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| 3 | common law |
L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen
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Dec 11, 2007 15:29: AllegroTrans Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois) 
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
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conventional justice
This is how I would express it - i.e. as you yourself say, the kind of justice that takes all factors into account (and is based on legal principles such as a right to a fair hearing, representation, etc. etc.)
Restoration or renovation(PDF)
justice, however, has an advantage over conventional justice procedures in that ... the question should be whether it is less effective than the conventional ...
restorativejustice.org.uk/About_us/pdf/Restoration_or_renovation.pdf - 393k - View as html
restorative justice: the evidence(PDF)
The erroneous assumptions of conventional justice, ... conventional justice fails to deter repeat convictions far more. often than not (see section 11) ...
www.restorativejusticescotland.org.uk/RJ_full_report.pdf - 491k - View as html
New Statesman - Confronting the perpetrators
Restorative justice puts criminals face to face with their victims, but does it ... than those dealt with by conventional justice procedures, but there was no ...
www.newstatesman.com/200508010045 - 20k
Victims and offenders in restorative justice: findings from empirical research(PDF)
conventional justice at reducing repeat offending and at repairing the harm that ... these measures that RJ should be compared with conventional justice ...
www.democraticdialogue.org/documents/heatherstrang.pdf - 33k - View as html
"Letter: Restorative Justice." The Independent (London, England)
01/10/2005 - Letter To the Editor - Credit Card required for Free Trial. Get articles from 3,000 newspapers, magazines and journals at HighBeam.com
www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-126839379.html
Restorative Justice Cuts Crime - b:cen website
... from other forms of conventional justice – otherwise know as retributive justice ... criminal justice, when used as a diversion from conventional justice ...
www.bcen.net/newsdetail.php?id=360&sitemap_id=37 - 12k - Cached
Restoration or renovation(PDF)
justice, however, has an advantage over conventional justice procedures in that ... the question should be whether it is less effective than the conventional ...
restorativejustice.org.uk/About_us/pdf/Restoration_or_renovation.pdf - 393k - View as html
restorative justice: the evidence(PDF)
The erroneous assumptions of conventional justice, ... conventional justice fails to deter repeat convictions far more. often than not (see section 11) ...
www.restorativejusticescotland.org.uk/RJ_full_report.pdf - 491k - View as html
New Statesman - Confronting the perpetrators
Restorative justice puts criminals face to face with their victims, but does it ... than those dealt with by conventional justice procedures, but there was no ...
www.newstatesman.com/200508010045 - 20k
Victims and offenders in restorative justice: findings from empirical research(PDF)
conventional justice at reducing repeat offending and at repairing the harm that ... these measures that RJ should be compared with conventional justice ...
www.democraticdialogue.org/documents/heatherstrang.pdf - 33k - View as html
"Letter: Restorative Justice." The Independent (London, England)
01/10/2005 - Letter To the Editor - Credit Card required for Free Trial. Get articles from 3,000 newspapers, magazines and journals at HighBeam.com
www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-126839379.html
Restorative Justice Cuts Crime - b:cen website
... from other forms of conventional justice – otherwise know as retributive justice ... criminal justice, when used as a diversion from conventional justice ...
www.bcen.net/newsdetail.php?id=360&sitemap_id=37 - 12k - Cached
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to AllegroTrans and evryone else for their contributions. I think conventional justice fits in best with the context. "
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L.J.Wessel van Leeuwen
South Africa
South Africa
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South Africa
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Native in: English , Dutch
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Related KudoZ points
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4
common law
as opposed to specialist law
Note from asker:
| that's what I thought at first too, but is common law not a system based on precedence or case law (droit coutumier), as oppodosed to civil law? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Victoria Porter-Burns
: this is my first thought, too
3 mins
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: too easily confused with a legal system in use in most English speaking contries, that has nothing to do with this particular subject
8 mins
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| disagree |
Attorney DC Bar
: agree with AllegraTrans and Asker. Common law doesn't work
17 hrs
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Thank you. Have a great day!
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10 mins
common practice in sentencing and awarding damages
(in civil or criminal cases is understood from 'sentencing' and "damages').
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