Dec 28, 2005 15:51
18 yrs ago
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French term
saisine
French to English
Law/Patents
Insurance
personal injury claim
DIRE que l’expert sera mis en œuvre et accomplira sa mission conformément aux dispositions des articles 263 et suivants du Nouveau Code de Procédure Civile et que, sauf conciliation des parties, il déposera son rapport au greffe dans les quatre mois de sa saisine
I think the personal 'sa' refers to the expert, rather than the court but obviously submission wouldn't work then. Would 'his/her appointment' be ok or is the sentence referring to the date on which the case was submitted?
I think the personal 'sa' refers to the expert, rather than the court but obviously submission wouldn't work then. Would 'his/her appointment' be ok or is the sentence referring to the date on which the case was submitted?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +4 | appointment |
Charlotte Allen
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| 4 | referral |
frenchloki (X)
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| 4 | after having been instructed by the court |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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| 4 -1 | submission |
Pierre POUSSIN
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Proposed translations
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10 mins
Charlotte Allen
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
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31
Selected
appointment
I would say the former: his appointment (which seems to be quite an official process).
"Le rôle de l'expert
La saisine de l'expert :
Aussitôt la décision rendue par le juge désignant un expert inscrit sur la liste prévue à cet effet, le greffier envoie une copie audit expert par lettre simple.
L'expert fait connaître le plus rapidement possible son acceptation ou son refus."
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Note added at 1 hr 8 mins (2005-12-28 16:59:54 GMT)
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You might even say 'appointment by the Court' or 'by the judge', if that is clearly the case, as this is a fairly formal appointment.
"Le rôle de l'expert
La saisine de l'expert :
Aussitôt la décision rendue par le juge désignant un expert inscrit sur la liste prévue à cet effet, le greffier envoie une copie audit expert par lettre simple.
L'expert fait connaître le plus rapidement possible son acceptation ou son refus."
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Note added at 1 hr 8 mins (2005-12-28 16:59:54 GMT)
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You might even say 'appointment by the Court' or 'by the judge', if that is clearly the case, as this is a fairly formal appointment.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks for confirming my hunch, Charlotte and best wishes for the season to all"
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27 mins
Pierre POUSSIN
France
France
Native in French
France
Fast and accurate.
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, French to English, Latin to French, and 2 more.
submission
Submission of a case to the Court is exactly "Saisine" en termes juridiques
Peer comment(s):
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Adam Warren
: Well tried, but respectfully: it refers to the expert having been "saisi du dossier", i.e. having had the matter referred to him/her;
1 hr
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2 hrs
referral
"...four months after the case has been referred to him/her...".
Just another way of putting it.
Just another way of putting it.
1 hr
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Native in English
Specializes in field
Psychologist, Court-certified legal
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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113
after having been instructed by the court
Leading on from what Charlotte says, an expert is "appointed" by the Court and goes onto the list of experts, or can of course be appointed to act on a one-off basis.
In the case in point, if it is a one-off appointment, then "appointment" works. If he is already on the list of court-approved experts, then he is being "instructed to act" in this one particular case.
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Note added at 19 hrs 58 mins (2005-12-29 11:50:16 GMT)
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Agree with Tom Thumb. In reference to arts. 263 et al of NCPC setting out provisions of expert appointed by court.
In the case in point, if it is a one-off appointment, then "appointment" works. If he is already on the list of court-approved experts, then he is being "instructed to act" in this one particular case.
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Note added at 19 hrs 58 mins (2005-12-29 11:50:16 GMT)
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Agree with Tom Thumb. In reference to arts. 263 et al of NCPC setting out provisions of expert appointed by court.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Adam Warren
: "saisir qn. d'un dossier" is to **refer** a matter to s.o.
11 mins
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Yes, as a generality, but Tom Thumb has hit the nail on the head.
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Adrian MM. (X)
: Not so - appointment by the court vs. instruction by the parties: cf. (parties') 'instructions to a single joint expert ' www.dca.gov.uk/civil/procrules_fin/ contents/parts/part35.htm
2 hrs
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Agree that experts are instructed by parties and appointed by court.
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