May 16, 2005 22:45
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Portuguese term
constante na classificação
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Anthropology
CONTEXT
no decurso do presente trabalho adotou-se a nomenclatura de ‘língua’ para referenciar cada ‘dialeto’ constante na classificação de Price
>> My question here is very specific... Is the use of the word language to refer to each dialect consistent with Price, or did Price believe in using the word DIALECT? I am guess the former, but want to make sure.
no decurso do presente trabalho adotou-se a nomenclatura de ‘língua’ para referenciar cada ‘dialeto’ constante na classificação de Price
>> My question here is very specific... Is the use of the word language to refer to each dialect consistent with Price, or did Price believe in using the word DIALECT? I am guess the former, but want to make sure.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +2 | included in [Price's] classification |
Muriel Vasconcellos
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| 5 +2 | comprised/included in .... classification |
Maria Luisa Duarte
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| 4 | existing in the classification |
Todd Field
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Proposed translations
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43 mins
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
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Portuguese term (edited):
constante na classifica��o
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included in [Price's] classification
To me, there's no doubt that you first interpretation is correct. The author wants to promote each "dialect" in Price's classification to the status of a separate "language."
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Note added at 46 mins (2005-05-16 23:32:05 GMT)
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In other words, FOR PRESENT PURPOSES, each dialect in the Price classification is being referred to as a \"language.\"
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Note added at 46 mins (2005-05-16 23:32:05 GMT)
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In other words, FOR PRESENT PURPOSES, each dialect in the Price classification is being referred to as a \"language.\"
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks. I know that
Maria Luisa Duarte answered this first -- but you directly answered the question that I asked. Anyway, not sure if this is the right thing to do here - but I hope so. Thanks very much for clearing this up. "
9 mins
Portuguese term (edited):
constante na classifica��o
existing in the classification
i.e. "cada dialeto constante na classificação de Price" = "each dialect existing in Price's classification" or "each dialect from Price's classification".
This is how I understand the meaning of the sentence. In other words, your first guess is the correct one.
Hope this helps and good luck!
This is how I understand the meaning of the sentence. In other words, your first guess is the correct one.
Hope this helps and good luck!
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6 mins
Maria Luisa Duarte
Spain
Spain
Native in Portuguese
&
English
Spain
Professional, Reliable & Committed
Native in: English 
, Portuguese
Works in: English to Portuguese, French to Spanish, Portuguese to Spanish, and 7 more.
Portuguese term (edited):
constante na classifica��o
comprised/included in .... classification
each dialect referenced or classified by Price
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-05-16 22:56:28 GMT)
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Price, Glanville, ed. The Encyclopedia of European Languages. Oxford: Blackwell, 1998.
(Uris Library Ref P380 .E53x 1998)
Price\'s definition of Europe stretches from the Iceland to include Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. As for a definition of language, Price includes both living and extinct languages and many dialects. He further expands the scope of the encyclopedia by including the principal community, or immigrant, languages of Britain, France, and the Netherlands as well as creoles, pidgin languages, artificial languages, and sign languages. Entries in the encyclopedia are alphabetically arranged and range in length from several sentences to 10 pages for major languages. In general, articles cover the external history and sociolinguistic aspects of the language or languages, including such topics as origins and linguistic affiliations, literary use, standardization, scripts and orthography, geographical spread, contacts with other languages, and if applicable, present situation. The encyclopedia is replete with cross-references. Most articles have current bibliographies.
http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/newling.htm#tran...
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Note added at 42 mins (2005-05-16 23:27:19 GMT)
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Encyclopedia of the Languages of Europe edited by Glanville Price
This is an authoritative reference guide to all the languages of
Europe, covering nearly three hundred languages and language
families. It focuses on extant languages but includes all languages
known to have been spoken in Europe in the past. Speech varieties
whose status as dialects rather than languages is a matter of debate
either have separate entries or are considered under other headings,
with appropriate cross references. The encyclopedia includes entries
on non-European languages now spoken by substantial communities in
Europe (such as Punjabi and Chinese in Britain and Arabic in France)
and on the major non-Latin alphabets used for the transcription of
European languages.
http://www.ling.ed.ac.uk/linguist/issues/13/13-1482.html#1
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-05-16 22:56:28 GMT)
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Price, Glanville, ed. The Encyclopedia of European Languages. Oxford: Blackwell, 1998.
(Uris Library Ref P380 .E53x 1998)
Price\'s definition of Europe stretches from the Iceland to include Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. As for a definition of language, Price includes both living and extinct languages and many dialects. He further expands the scope of the encyclopedia by including the principal community, or immigrant, languages of Britain, France, and the Netherlands as well as creoles, pidgin languages, artificial languages, and sign languages. Entries in the encyclopedia are alphabetically arranged and range in length from several sentences to 10 pages for major languages. In general, articles cover the external history and sociolinguistic aspects of the language or languages, including such topics as origins and linguistic affiliations, literary use, standardization, scripts and orthography, geographical spread, contacts with other languages, and if applicable, present situation. The encyclopedia is replete with cross-references. Most articles have current bibliographies.
http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/newling.htm#tran...
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Note added at 42 mins (2005-05-16 23:27:19 GMT)
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Encyclopedia of the Languages of Europe edited by Glanville Price
This is an authoritative reference guide to all the languages of
Europe, covering nearly three hundred languages and language
families. It focuses on extant languages but includes all languages
known to have been spoken in Europe in the past. Speech varieties
whose status as dialects rather than languages is a matter of debate
either have separate entries or are considered under other headings,
with appropriate cross references. The encyclopedia includes entries
on non-European languages now spoken by substantial communities in
Europe (such as Punjabi and Chinese in Britain and Arabic in France)
and on the major non-Latin alphabets used for the transcription of
European languages.
http://www.ling.ed.ac.uk/linguist/issues/13/13-1482.html#1
Peer comment(s):
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Muriel Vasconcellos
: I don't think "comprise" works in this context, so I didn't read the rest and hadn't noticed "included," which is why I opened a separate entry.
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thanks Muriel! MLD
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| agree |
Eduardo Queiroz
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Obrigado Eduardo! MLD
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| agree |
reginalobo
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Thank you Regina! MLD
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