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Mar 10, 2013 19:56
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Serbian term

angažovano slikarstvo

Serbian to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Kriza identiteta u likovnom stvaralaštvu ovog vremena dobila je ekvivalentan iskaz u angažovanom slikarstvu apstraktne orijentacije...
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Proposed translations

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socially-committed painting

"angažovano slikarstvo" is an import from French "art engagé"/"peinture engagée"

"engagement
h « prise de position » ▶ commitment (dans : to)
■ engagement personnel/politique/militaire : personal/political/military commitment
■ politique de non-engagement : policy of non-commitment
Robert Collins Dictionary
the commitment in question is social commitment

as in

"Ken Currie
b.1960
Nationality: British

Scottish painter, the most overtly political of the *Glasgow School which emerged in the 1980s. Born in North Shields to Scottish parents, he studied at *Glasgow School of Art between 1978 and 1983. While a student he discovered a strain of socially committed realist painting in the work of *Dix, ..."
[http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/artists/ken-currie]



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Note added at 3 days5 hrs (2013-03-14 01:43:48 GMT)
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"engagement: « prise de position » ▶ commitment (dans : to) .."
je ovde relevatno značenje za "angažovano" / "angažman"

"angažovano slikarstvo" je slikarstvo koje "zastupa/zadovara neki stav", suprotno od slikarstva koje je samo puki ukras - "dekorativno slikarstvo".

Dekorativno slikarsto "can engage s.o." u smislu esteskog doživljaja, ali to nije ono što se podrazumeva pod nazivom "angažovano slikarstvo"; "angažovano slikarstvo" podrazumeva "commitment to a cause" (social/political/ideological ...)

Take it straight from the horse mouth:

"Vlada Veličković, jedan od najznačajnijih srpskih i evropskih slikara

Umetnost nije udobna fotelja

Na sve velike tragedije koje su se desile u ovom veku, nažalost, slikari nisu reagovali svojim delom. Zato su ostali pasivni i na sve tegobe kroz koje je prošao naš narod

Vaše stvaralaštvo je uslovljeno nasiljem. Da li to znači da gledaoca suočavate sa smrću ne samo na duhovnom planu, nego mu tako predočavate i društvenu realnost u kojoj živi?

--- Moje slike mogu da se stave u kontekst svedočenja o vremenu, ali ne i angažovanja. Gledajući kroz istoriju, angažovano slikarstvo bilo je porazno plakatsko agitovanje za određene ideje, i kao takvo nije dalo željene rezultate. Na sve što se desilo u ovom našem veku, na žalost, imamo retke reakcije slikara...
Ta pasivnost, potvrđena u vreme užasnih i bolnih događaja kod nas, nije mi potpuno jasna. Čini mi se da je u pitanju odsustvo interesa za događaje koji su na udaljenosti od nekoliko stotina kilometara, a možda i nemogućnost reagovanja. Ponekad mi izgleda kao da su ljudi zatečeni informacijama i da jednostavno ne mogu da poveruju u dešavanja, tako da postaju blokirani, bez neke snage i volje da reaguju.

Da li je danas umetnost postala udobna fotelja bez zabrinjavajućih i uznemiravajućih sadržaja, kako je to govorio Matis?
--- Ovim što ja radim upravo je na suprotnom kraju te Matisove čuvene rečenice. Međutim, Matisove reči karakteristične su za ovu zemlju i mentalitet. Kolekcionari i drugi akteri u umetnosti, blokirani su tim stavom, i pravi izraz njihovih želja jeste da slika bude dekorativna. Ekspresionizam koji je violentna manifestacija pogleda na svet, u Francuskoj nikada nije imao dublje korene ni pristalice, niti je oduševljavao publiku.

Vi ste i profesor na pariskoj Akademiji umetnosti? Kuda idu ovi momci i devojke koji se sada pripremaju za poziv slikara?
--- Na pariskoj Akademiji postoje od dve struje - …. Međutim, u radu i jedne i druge grupe mladih stvaralaca vidi se potpuno odsustvo angažmana, uslovljeno, možda, odsustvom perspektive i vere u budućnost.
[http://arhiva.glas-javnosti.rs/arhiva/2000/07/29-30/srpski/I...]


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Note added at 10 days (2013-03-21 17:53:15 GMT)
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ispravka:
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21 hrs

engaged painting, engaged art

After OWS: Social Practice Art, Abstraction, and the Limits of ... - E-Flux
www.e-flux.com/.../after-ows-social-practice-art-abstractio...
Ishmael renders the painting virtually abstract, or non-objective, as his act of ... of socially engaged art among younger artists, including those students who, by ...

THE MOMENTUM OF ABSTRACT PAINTING | Art Experience NYC
https://www.artexperiencenyc.com/transfer-of-meaningthe-mome...

And yet, abstract painting continues to emerge and leave an imprint, if at times ... I asked how their practices engage with abstraction and how the exchange ...
Note from asker:
Ja sam najpre upotrebila termin "engaged painting", medjutim cini mi se da termin "socially-committed" detaljnije predstavlja aktivnosti samog pravca. Hvala puno na referencama u okviru odgovora!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : "engaged" on its own is not enough // "socially engaged" would be a perfectly good option; in the second ref. to "engage" is not used in the same meaning as "angažovano" in "angažovano slikarstvo" -- koje ne mora da bude socrealizam ...
2 days 1 hr
the original text has no reference to "socially", and with abstract painting it could be engaging the viewers in more ways than one (socially), for instance scientifically engaged, etc.
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