Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
реально существуют
English translation:
there actually exist
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brave_mushro (X)
Apr 24, 2008 13:11
16 yrs ago
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Russian term
реально существуют
Russian to English
Art/Literary
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
"Как отмечено В.И. Вернадским: «Научная мысль сама по себе не существует, она создается человеческой живой личностью, есть ее проявление. В мире реально существуют только личности, создающие и высказывающие научную мысль, проявляющие научное творчество — научную энергию."
"реально" здесь нужно переводить в терминах социологии?
"реально" здесь нужно переводить в терминах социологии?
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | there actually exist | Rachel Douglas |
4 | Only individuals ... do really exist in the world | Alexander Onishko |
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Apr 24, 2008 13:21: brave_mushro (X) Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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there actually exist
Vernadsky's language was never sociology-speak, that's for sure!
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Note added at 17 mins (2008-04-24 13:28:26 GMT) Post-grading
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Usually I don't try to translate Vernadsky before breakfast, but this time...
"Scientific thought does not exist in and of itself, but is created by living human individuals, and is their manifestation. What actually exists in the world is only the individuals, who create and express scientific thought, thus manifesting scientific creativity, or scientific energy."
So, I think it works out better that way, as "what actually exists is..."
The reason for saying "scientific thought" rather than "a scientific thought" is that the author is Vernadsky, and he used "научная мысль" in that general way, as opposed to discrete, single "thoughts". As for "manifest / manifestation", проявление / проявляться were Vernadsky's favorite words, and I've found, after some experimentation, that it's worth it to translate them this way, rather than look for some shorthand. As for "высказывается" - in a longer text, I might opt for "give utterance to", to distinguish it from "выражает", but in a short quotation, "express" is probably OK. Individuals / personalities / persons / beings for "личности" could be discussed (but maybe not before breakfast).
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Note added at 17 mins (2008-04-24 13:28:26 GMT) Post-grading
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Usually I don't try to translate Vernadsky before breakfast, but this time...
"Scientific thought does not exist in and of itself, but is created by living human individuals, and is their manifestation. What actually exists in the world is only the individuals, who create and express scientific thought, thus manifesting scientific creativity, or scientific energy."
So, I think it works out better that way, as "what actually exists is..."
The reason for saying "scientific thought" rather than "a scientific thought" is that the author is Vernadsky, and he used "научная мысль" in that general way, as opposed to discrete, single "thoughts". As for "manifest / manifestation", проявление / проявляться were Vernadsky's favorite words, and I've found, after some experimentation, that it's worth it to translate them this way, rather than look for some shorthand. As for "высказывается" - in a longer text, I might opt for "give utterance to", to distinguish it from "выражает", but in a short quotation, "express" is probably OK. Individuals / personalities / persons / beings for "личности" could be discussed (but maybe not before breakfast).
Note from asker:
Thank you! My translation is very similar to yours. I use "pronounce" for "выражают", "manifestation" seems really suitable to me too. |
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Only individuals ... do really exist in the world
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как вам такой вариант?