Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

самодовлеющая

English translation:

autotelic

Added to glossary by Konstantin Kisin
Oct 5, 2004 20:27
19 yrs ago
Russian term

самодовлеющая

Russian to English Art/Literary Philosophy
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Победа для него (Зла) -- самодовлеющая ценность

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Vladimir Dubisskiy Oct 5, 2004:
but 'end in itself' and 'value in itself' are quite different things, actually...

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autotelic

an autotelic value
I think it means, in layman's language, something like "an end in itself".
I don't know much about the term "autotelic", but it looks like the proper philosophical term (from the Greek: auto- self, telos, end).

However, because the game only simulates real life, its autotelic value is limited --
the enjoyment of confidence and achievement felt by the players/learners ...
edweb.sdsu.edu/courses/edtec670/ Cardboard/board/w/wheelinAround/wheels.html

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This is what I found on www.multitran.ru:
самодовлеющий прил.
общ. all-sufficient; autotelic
воен. self-sufficing

rivalry. Games have primarily **autotelic value**. To most of us, games have
not just the logic of play but are realized accordingly. ...
www.kluweronline.com/article.asp?PIPS=232675&PDF=1


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autotelic: (of an activity or a creative work) having an end or purpose in itself (Oxford English Dictionary)
The word seems to have originated in the early 20th century as a philosphical term.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thank you, i knew all-sufficient wasn't quite it, this is bang on. Thanks to all."
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all-sufficient value

all-sufficient value

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О грамотности
... удовлетворять. Сохранилось слово самодовлеющий, то есть самодостаточный. ...
geo.1september.ru/2002/24/4.htm - 8k

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www.LetGodBeTrue.com - Baptism; Catechism
... error to believe that baptism washes away sins in any way but in a picture or symbol,
for it leads to many heresies and denies the all-sufficient value and one ...
www.letgodbetrue.com/BibleTopics/Baptism/Catechism.htm

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www.LetGodBeTrue.com - Baptism; Catechism
... error to believe that baptism washes away sins in any way but in a picture or symbol,
for it leads to many heresies and denies the all-sufficient value and one ...
www.letgodbetrue.com/BibleTopics/Baptism/Catechism.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Kirill Semenov : all-sufficient, да, забыл, что и такое есть :)
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бывает, Кирилл :-)
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self-sufficient

Я не знаю, что лучше можно придумать. For it the victory itself is a sufficient goal. Или the only goal. For it (the Evil), the goal is the victory itself.

For it, the very victory is the only goal.

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What it (the Evil) values most is the victory itself.
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merit by itself

with your sentence..
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