Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Zuspritzextruder
English translation:
Injection extruder
Added to glossary by
Richard Benham
Jul 9, 2006 17:20
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Zuspritzextruder
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Gas Pipes
I am having a lot of trouble even navigating around this file. However, it is a table of possible problems. This row relates to the problem "Schicht zu gering", and the possible causes are given as "Zuspritzextruder falsch eingestellt bzw. Störung an Vakuum". There is nothing much else of relevance, just references to ""Vorgaben" and things. Nor does the word appear anywhere else in the file or my TM (I have worked for this client before....)
So I would be very grateful for either authoritative statements or well-argued educated guesses.
So I would be very grateful for either authoritative statements or well-argued educated guesses.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | Injection extruder |
Gareth McMillan
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| 3 +2 | injection extruder |
Lori Dendy-Molz
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| 4 | piggy-back extruder |
David Umpleby
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| 4 | co-extruder |
Robin Hilder
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| 2 | injection extruder |
Wenjer Leuschel (X)
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Proposed translations
58 mins
Gareth McMillan
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Least is most, so keep it simple!
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English
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8
Selected
Injection extruder
I basically agree with the other offerings- this is only by way of an wexplanation.
Modern extrusion machines can be very complex.
IMO this probably refers to a basic extrusion machine set-up with additional downstream injection stations (e.g. for adding a coloured stripes, layers or even shells to the basic extrusion).
So if the Zuspritz extruder is wrongly set, the layer (or whatever) will be too thick or too thin.
I would say Zuspritz extruder prolly refers to the whole machine, so it would be injection extruder.
If we are only referring to the downstream equipment, then I would say extrusion injector.
But as it's only a word on a list, then leave it literal.
Modern extrusion machines can be very complex.
IMO this probably refers to a basic extrusion machine set-up with additional downstream injection stations (e.g. for adding a coloured stripes, layers or even shells to the basic extrusion).
So if the Zuspritz extruder is wrongly set, the layer (or whatever) will be too thick or too thin.
I would say Zuspritz extruder prolly refers to the whole machine, so it would be injection extruder.
If we are only referring to the downstream equipment, then I would say extrusion injector.
But as it's only a word on a list, then leave it literal.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Gareth. I should add that further into the text it has become clear that the pipes have an outer PE layer, an aluminium layer, and then an inliner.... So you are right about the layering. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Hello. I am giving the points to Gareth, even though he was not the first to come up with the suggestion, because he gave the most convincing explanation.
My apologies to those who thought the question trivial. It does seem there is some tension between the concepts of injection and extrusion, although we can all think of cases where one man's extrusion is another man's (or woman's) injection...."
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4 mins
Lori Dendy-Molz
Germany
Germany
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Germany
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Native in: English
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19
injection extruder
see if this ref. helps:
ASTM D2513 Standard Specification for Thermoplastic Gas Pressure Pipe, ... and an injection extruder to inject material into the mold block cavity. ...
www.plasticpipe.org/pdf/pubs/handbook/pipefit.PDF
ASTM D2513 Standard Specification for Thermoplastic Gas Pressure Pipe, ... and an injection extruder to inject material into the mold block cavity. ...
www.plasticpipe.org/pdf/pubs/handbook/pipefit.PDF
Peer comment(s):
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
: Yes, I guess so. Your were quicker than I.
6 mins
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Thanks, Wenjer.
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| agree |
Anton Baer
: straightforward indeed.
39 mins
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Thanks, Heinrich.
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10 mins
injection extruder
"Zuspritzen" means to "inject."
"Extruder" is just "extruder" in English.
Since the material to be processed is plastic or ceramic, I guess "injection extruder" could be the right answer.
"Extruder" is just "extruder" in English.
Since the material to be processed is plastic or ceramic, I guess "injection extruder" could be the right answer.
5 hrs
David Umpleby
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PhD chemistry, polymers,cables, patents.
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Works in: German to English, French to English, English
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24
piggy-back extruder
For Verbundrohr there are in fact four layers of plastic; from inside to outside: PE (or XLPE), polymeric adhesive, Aluminium, polymeric adhesive, and then PE (or XLPE). Therefore, four extruders are required and normally the first extruder has a piggy back extruder (i.e. much smaller) that coextrudes a thin layer of polymeric adhesive directly (in the same die) onto the inner PE layer. The aluminium is then wrapped around these two layers, laser welded, and then a third small extruder extrudes another thin layer of polymeric adhesive onto the aluminium , followed by a larger extruder that extrudes (probably in the same die) the outer layer of PE. My guess, from your vague information, is that the Zuspritzextruder refers to the second and/or third extruder, and therefore would merit the name piggy-back extruder in Euro-English.
Note from asker:
| Hello David. Thank you for that information. I did say "(not counting the adhesive)". |
13 hrs
co-extruder
Since we are definitely talking about co-extrusion here and we have limited context I think that co-extruder would be the best choice here since it is independent of how the extruder is physically mounted.
David is quite right about small co-extruders (and sometimes surprising large ones) being mounted in piggy-back configuration, but this is usually either the result of limited floor space or die geometry. The trouble is if it isn't on top of the machine it isn't a piggy back extruder. You can also get small co-extruders on a stand call jockey extruders.
I haven't seen this term used before and initially I was inclined to think of pluger extruders, however they would be unsuitable for a continuous process like this.
Google only gives a handful of references to this and these would appear to be general purpose singles.
With regard to the injection extruder this is not a term I have ever seen, but when I pulled the reference it is simply a description of the construction of an injection moulder. The application here is the extrusion of multiple layers of which one is too thin. This is not done on an injection moulder.
David is quite right about small co-extruders (and sometimes surprising large ones) being mounted in piggy-back configuration, but this is usually either the result of limited floor space or die geometry. The trouble is if it isn't on top of the machine it isn't a piggy back extruder. You can also get small co-extruders on a stand call jockey extruders.
I haven't seen this term used before and initially I was inclined to think of pluger extruders, however they would be unsuitable for a continuous process like this.
Google only gives a handful of references to this and these would appear to be general purpose singles.
With regard to the injection extruder this is not a term I have ever seen, but when I pulled the reference it is simply a description of the construction of an injection moulder. The application here is the extrusion of multiple layers of which one is too thin. This is not done on an injection moulder.
Discussion
I agree that "injection extruder" is obvious, but it seemed a bit like a contradiction in terms.