Apr 18, 2007 20:46
17 yrs ago
German term

Gipsfarbe

German to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting 1880 memoir
Same context as my other query:
Schon nach einem Vierteljahr gestattete mir der Lehrer in
Anbetracht meines Fleißes und meiner Fortschritte Antiken zu zeichnen; die letzteren waren zwar schon einige zehn, zwölf Male mit **Gipsfarbe** angestrichen, das schadete aber nicht.
Is this ordinary wall paint, or is it a special term in the field of art?

Discussion

Stephen Reader Apr 19, 2007:
Wall paint/art term: backgr'd cf. Henry; I plump for sth. inbetween - think successive layers of plaster-compatible &/or based paint to 'restore' & preserve plaster casts grubby in decades of use at art schl. + info: No rm for URL here -my entry...

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gesso

I'm not at all sure about this, but possibly the Antike were wooden statues and they had received 10 or 14 coats of gesso from previous students.

Dabei verwendet er beileibe keine kostbaren, teuren Materialien. Nein, aus Pappel- und Kistensperrholz, den billigsten Brettern, sind seine Objekte "geschnitzt". Und trotzdem sind sie es wert, wie Preziosen behandelt zu werden. Kirchmair hat ihnen Säcke schneidern lassen, zum einpacken und zuschnüren. Damit ihnen beim Transport nichts passiert. Das ist wichtig. Denn besonders strapazierfähig sind die "Bodenfrüchte" nicht, eher schutzlos und verletzlich.

Teilweise besitzen sie einen empfindlichen Anstrich aus einfacher Gipsfarbe mit Binder, teilweise sind sie naturbelassen.

http://www.antonkirchmair.de/pressetexte/jg_liegen.htm

Artists who are concerned with making permanent paintings should consider carefully the quality of all layers of their paintings. They should be as concerned about the layers they do not see (size and ground) as the layers they do see (oil colors, painting mediums and varnish).

Ground is the foundation of an oil painting.
Oil grounds have been for five centuries a simple mixture of chalk (in Northern Europe) or gypsum (in Italy), white lead and linseed oil. Chalk is a calcium carbonate, which naturally occurs in fossilized shell deposits, like the White Cliffs of Dover. The premium grade of chalk was "champagne" used to make "Paris Chalk." Today we also call calcium carbonate chalk "whiting." Like gypsum, chalk does not make a suitable white pigment because of its poor color and transparency. For making gesso, opacity is not an issue because so many layers are applied. However, an oil ground on fabric should be no more 1/8 inch thick so only a few layers can be applied. By adding a measure of opaque white lead, a thin and bright oil ground can be made.

Traditional Gesso
Gesso is Italian for gypsum (calcium sulphate dihydrate) which occurs naturally near salt deposits. Calcined gypsum, also called plaster of Paris, when mixed with animal glue, makes a luminous painting surface for fresco and for paintings on wood panels. Medieval painters applied as many as ten layers of gesso on wood panels. By painting alla prima with tempera on gessoed panels they could create "portable" frescoes. Gesso on wood panels makes a good surface for paintings that include burnishing and gilding techniques.

Gesso was not used as a ground for oil painting. The traditional primer for oil painting is an oil ground. Modern "gesso" was formulated by manufacturers of acrylic polymer primer about fifty years ago. Why they decided to call acrylic primer "gesso," a conservator suggested that the marketing department wanted to associate new acrylic primer with painting tradition so oil painters would use it. Whatever the reason, the name "gesso" continues to cause confusion.

http://www.gamblincolors.com/oil.painting.techniques/grounds...

Peer comment(s):

neutral Stephen Reader : Tempted to agree, Kim, but tentative. Am persuaded these are the plaster casts all art students had to study (why painted-over? To preserve the maltreated aging casts? Not as a student exercise). So the 'paint' may've been gesso - a gUess on my part
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Kim."
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mixture of plaster and paint

Plaster paint was what came up first, but it also means a whole something else and I don't want to embarrass you with the client.


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http://www.muralist.org/fresco/painting.html
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white

I assume your sculptures from antiquity were painted over ten or twelve times with a color that resemble plaster. To me this is "white".

This, from the British Museum, looks pretty reliable as far as internet references go. Apparently, it was common to paint sculptures in antiquity:

The idea that ancient Greek sculpture was gleaming white marble is a myth. In the ancient world the sculptural decoration of the Parthenon was painted in bright colours, although all traces of it have long since disappeared. The figures in the pediments at either end, and the metope panels on the exterior of the building would have been exposed to sunlight. But the famous Parthenon frieze that ran around the inner structure of the building was always in the shade...

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:0sIMtEPJpysJ:www.thebriti...
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plaster paint

Why not? Plaster is an extremely absorptive surface, and I can well imagine a special formulation of paint for use on plaster castings, mouldings etc...
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(see URL below)

Not really an answer, but maybe a lead. Cont'd from my note to you, Ann - Gipsfarbe as a cue on just 1-2 art-encyc. sites didn't bring much joy, but 'Gipsmalerei' did (use with caution) - see
www.beyars.com/kunstlexikon/lexikon_3473.html -
albeit German only, but the intro. lines there about the near-obsolete prac. of painting statuary looks relevant. It won't be painting on a plaster ground 'as a painting' (cf. gesso), tho' conceivably gesso might've been used to 'do up' a grubby old plaster cast (grubby from handling, moving (!) etc., in or for classes...)
The tone of your passage suggests at least pre-WW2 if not a 19th-C. context, when drawing from the plaster cast was staple.

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(@ Henry - Drawing and life-drawing classes. Gawd was I wretched at the casts. Worse from the Real Thing. Good to communicate with you!)
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