Mar 12 11:11
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French term
Cellule d’irradiation
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Energy / Power Generation
Photovoltaic systems
From instructions for the use of a road surface photovoltaic system:
"L’armoire électrique est connectée aux dalles, elle intègre des équipements de régulation, de transformation et de surveillance énergétique.
Elle est équipée de :
• Protection DC
• Protection AC
• Onduleur (Voir annexe 1)
• Parafoudre
• Monitoring WebdynSun (Voir Annexe 2)
• **Cellule d’irradiation** positionnée sur le dessus de l’armoire, elle peut être déportée si besoin
• Accessoires (prises 2P+T, thermostat, ventilateur, antenne XXX)
• Option : un compteur d’énergie XXX de marque XXX pour les installations de grande capacité"
"Irradiation cell" doesn't sound right to me in this (non-nuclear) context
"L’armoire électrique est connectée aux dalles, elle intègre des équipements de régulation, de transformation et de surveillance énergétique.
Elle est équipée de :
• Protection DC
• Protection AC
• Onduleur (Voir annexe 1)
• Parafoudre
• Monitoring WebdynSun (Voir Annexe 2)
• **Cellule d’irradiation** positionnée sur le dessus de l’armoire, elle peut être déportée si besoin
• Accessoires (prises 2P+T, thermostat, ventilateur, antenne XXX)
• Option : un compteur d’énergie XXX de marque XXX pour les installations de grande capacité"
"Irradiation cell" doesn't sound right to me in this (non-nuclear) context
Proposed translations
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4 +4 | solar radiation sensor | Bashiqa |
5 | Irradiation and Temperature Sensor | Johannes Gleim |
3 | irradiance meter | Bourth |
Proposed translations
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solar radiation sensor
Part of the control system providing the info required for best performance.
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Mark Nathan
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Thank you.
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Daryo
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Thank you.
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philgoddard
: Meter is fine too.
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Thank you.
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Kim Metzger
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Thank you.
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Johannes Gleim
: I miss any references. BTW: It's not the radiation from the sun, but the irradiation. // Please check the Kudoz-Rules, item 1.3! References and citations may help the asker to understand amd to evaluate the relevance.
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Since when are references required? however just to keep you happy, https://rainwise.com/sensors/solar-radiation-sensors
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Schtroumpf
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Thank you.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Bashiqa and to all who contributed to the discussion."
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irradiance meter
This must be the Xattxay system by Mon petit frère, t'auras du lolo, the Boogieman parent company of which I do a lot of work for. There's a Xattxay solar road (the first) not far from me here in Normandy. These days they seem to be focusing on using the system cycle paths rather than roads, or as isolated 'pads' for charging ebikes, etc.
The irradiance meter atop the control station serves to measure the efficiency of the system.
Irradiance is measured in watts per square meter and comes in the form of electromagnetic radiation. An irradiance meter therefore allows you to measure how your solar PV panel is performing and ensures you are getting the maximum output from your PV system.
https://www.testinstrumentsolutions.co.uk/knowledgebase-arti...
You'll find reference to the Normandy solar road and the term 'irradiance meter' here:
https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/13/22/12807?type=check_update...
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These days they seem to be focusing on using the system for cycle paths ...
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The irradiance meter atop the control station serves to measure the efficiency of the system.
Irradiance is measured in watts per square meter and comes in the form of electromagnetic radiation. An irradiance meter therefore allows you to measure how your solar PV panel is performing and ensures you are getting the maximum output from your PV system.
https://www.testinstrumentsolutions.co.uk/knowledgebase-arti...
You'll find reference to the Normandy solar road and the term 'irradiance meter' here:
https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/13/22/12807?type=check_update...
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These days they seem to be focusing on using the system for cycle paths ...
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Emmanuella
: ..sur le dessus de l'armoire?
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?? C'est ce que dit le texte. Mais la cellule peut être déportée.
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Johannes Gleim
: Your link also shows an irradiance sensor: Figure 10. … (b) solar irradiance measuring sensor (yellow colored) and illuminance measuring sensor (blue colored). https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/13/22/12807?type=check_update...
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That is true ... but the photo labels the 'solar irradiance measuring sensor' as 'solar irradiance meter', which is also the name given the TES 132 device by its Taiwanese manufacturer.
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Irradiation and Temperature Sensor
Typically, both measuring modules for sunlight radiation and cell temperature are combined.
WebdynSunPM
Gateway for solar plants with Power Management
The WebdynSunPM concentrator is used to monitor and control photovoltaic installations by collecting, analyzing and modifying the equipment parameters. Define your scenarios to modulate the power injected to the grid, optimize energy storage or manage your own consumption. Installation and programming is simple and user-friendly using the embedded web server and the configuration wizard, and it can be done remotely. It is compatible with most platforms. WebdynSunPM operates sending the data to one or two servers, or backing it up locally on a micro SD card. Its Power Management feature allows offloading, autoconsumption, storage, as well as other actions
https://www.webdyn.com/product/webdynsunpm/
Sens’ Irradiation
Irradiation and Temperature Sensor
Webdyn’s Sens’ Irradiation sensor is a wired device designed to detect the irradiation and temperature with a high accuracy.
https://www.webdyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Sens-Irrad...
4.3 Mounting the Irradiation and Temperature Sensor
1. Connect the irradiation and temperature sensor to the bracket using the nuts recessed in the
frame.
2. Lay the connection cable.
☑ The irradiation and temperature sensor is fully mounted.
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5.2 Temperature Sensor for the Temperature Compensation
Configuration of the Sunny Boy Control Plus or Sunny Central Control
For the configuration, please refer to the Sunny Boy Control Plus user manual. In the case
of the Sunny Central Control, the configuration is described in the Sunny Central user
manual.
Temperature compensation
If required, manually perform a temperature compensation of both measured values
(irradiation and temperature). The irradiation sensor is calibrated to 25 °C.
https://www.solartradesales.co.uk/Cache/Downloads/RA100T-NR-...
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To set the scene, we characterize the long-term energy availability of solar resource at any location, the theoretical potential. This potential is illustrated by the physical variable of global horizontal irradiation (GHI), which is the sum of direct and diffuse irradiation components received by a horizontal surface. GHI is measured in kilowatthours per square metre (kWh/m²).
https://globalsolaratlas.info/global-pv-potential-study
Solar irradiance is the power per unit area (surface power density) received from the Sun in the form of electromagnetic radiation in the wavelength range of the measuring instrument. Solar irradiance is measured in watts per square metre (W/m²) in SI units.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_irradiance
The first step for simulating photovoltaic systems is modeling the irradiation.
The irradiation on the PV modules is calculated from the climate data, which usually contain the ambient temperature and the solar irradiation in hourly resolution. This requires a series of partial steps:
1. Calculation of the sun position
2. Calculation of extraterrestrial radiation
3. Calculation of the geometry of module area and angle of irradiation (tracking)
4. Division of irradiation into direct and diffuse components (Diffuse radiation model)
5. Calculation of shadowing losses due to distant objects (horizontal shading)
6. Calculation of irradiation on the inclined plane
7. Calculation of [ground reflection] (https://help.valentin-software.com/pvsol/en/calculation/irra...
https://help.valentin-software.com/pvsol/en/calculation/irra...
Performance the irradiance sensor is one of the sensors used in the PV plant for professional monitoring and evaluation of photovoltaic systems.
The irradiance sensor, known as the photovoltaic pyranometer, has emerged with the development of photovoltaic systems as a derivative of pyranometers and is used to measure the value of irradiance from the sun.
https://www.google.com/search?q="irradiance sensor" "photovo...
The Irradiance sensor also referred to as a photovoltaic pyranometer, has emerged as a derivative of pyranometers with the development of photovoltaic systems. Its purpose is to measure the irradiance value from the sun.
https://suryalogix.com/irradiance-sensor/
Irradiance sensors
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Since I have noticed that my reference list has been broken off here for unknown reasons, I would like to add the missing ones.
Further references on the identity of cells and sensors:
Irradiance sensor (SE1000-SEN-IRR-S1)
• The irradiance sensor is a high-quality solar cell. It measures solar irradiance levels for photovoltaic systems.
https://segensolar.co.za/product/solaredge/environmental-sen...
A silicon solar cell can be used as an irradiance sensor, because the short-circuit current is proportional to the irradiance
https://www.imt-solar.com/fileadmin/docs/en/products/Si-Sens...
The Irradiance Sensor is a high-quality solar cell that measures solar irradiance levels for commercial PV systems. The sensor's irradiance output signal is 0 to 1V covering a 0 to 1000W/m2 range
https://www.solaredge.com/en/products/metering-and-sensors/e...
Silicon solar irradiation sensors (Reference cells or Si sensors) offer an economical but robust and reliable solution for measuring solar irradiance levels, particularly for monitoring photovoltaic systems. The design of the sensor element, which corresponds to that of a photovoltaic module, make these sensors ideally suited as a reference for monitoring photovoltaic systems.
https://www.imt-solar.com/solar-irradiance-sensors/
The irradiance sensors of the Si-Series measure via a monocrystalline silicium solar cell the solar irradiance. To minimize influences of temperature to the measuring signal all of our irradiance sensors are using an active temperature compensation via a temperature sensor laminated to the back surface of the solar cell.
Additionally to the solar irradiance measurement our Si-Sensors with the extension “-T” are able to measure the solar cell temperature. This solar cell temperature can approximately be used as module temperature.
https://www.meteocontrol.com/fileadmin/Daten/Dokumente/IT/1_...
WebdynSunPM
Gateway for solar plants with Power Management
The WebdynSunPM concentrator is used to monitor and control photovoltaic installations by collecting, analyzing and modifying the equipment parameters. Define your scenarios to modulate the power injected to the grid, optimize energy storage or manage your own consumption. Installation and programming is simple and user-friendly using the embedded web server and the configuration wizard, and it can be done remotely. It is compatible with most platforms. WebdynSunPM operates sending the data to one or two servers, or backing it up locally on a micro SD card. Its Power Management feature allows offloading, autoconsumption, storage, as well as other actions
https://www.webdyn.com/product/webdynsunpm/
Sens’ Irradiation
Irradiation and Temperature Sensor
Webdyn’s Sens’ Irradiation sensor is a wired device designed to detect the irradiation and temperature with a high accuracy.
https://www.webdyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Sens-Irrad...
4.3 Mounting the Irradiation and Temperature Sensor
1. Connect the irradiation and temperature sensor to the bracket using the nuts recessed in the
frame.
2. Lay the connection cable.
☑ The irradiation and temperature sensor is fully mounted.
:
5.2 Temperature Sensor for the Temperature Compensation
Configuration of the Sunny Boy Control Plus or Sunny Central Control
For the configuration, please refer to the Sunny Boy Control Plus user manual. In the case
of the Sunny Central Control, the configuration is described in the Sunny Central user
manual.
Temperature compensation
If required, manually perform a temperature compensation of both measured values
(irradiation and temperature). The irradiation sensor is calibrated to 25 °C.
https://www.solartradesales.co.uk/Cache/Downloads/RA100T-NR-...
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Note added at 23 Stunden (2024-03-13 10:39:05 GMT)
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To set the scene, we characterize the long-term energy availability of solar resource at any location, the theoretical potential. This potential is illustrated by the physical variable of global horizontal irradiation (GHI), which is the sum of direct and diffuse irradiation components received by a horizontal surface. GHI is measured in kilowatthours per square metre (kWh/m²).
https://globalsolaratlas.info/global-pv-potential-study
Solar irradiance is the power per unit area (surface power density) received from the Sun in the form of electromagnetic radiation in the wavelength range of the measuring instrument. Solar irradiance is measured in watts per square metre (W/m²) in SI units.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_irradiance
The first step for simulating photovoltaic systems is modeling the irradiation.
The irradiation on the PV modules is calculated from the climate data, which usually contain the ambient temperature and the solar irradiation in hourly resolution. This requires a series of partial steps:
1. Calculation of the sun position
2. Calculation of extraterrestrial radiation
3. Calculation of the geometry of module area and angle of irradiation (tracking)
4. Division of irradiation into direct and diffuse components (Diffuse radiation model)
5. Calculation of shadowing losses due to distant objects (horizontal shading)
6. Calculation of irradiation on the inclined plane
7. Calculation of [ground reflection] (https://help.valentin-software.com/pvsol/en/calculation/irra...
https://help.valentin-software.com/pvsol/en/calculation/irra...
Performance the irradiance sensor is one of the sensors used in the PV plant for professional monitoring and evaluation of photovoltaic systems.
The irradiance sensor, known as the photovoltaic pyranometer, has emerged with the development of photovoltaic systems as a derivative of pyranometers and is used to measure the value of irradiance from the sun.
https://www.google.com/search?q="irradiance sensor" "photovo...
The Irradiance sensor also referred to as a photovoltaic pyranometer, has emerged as a derivative of pyranometers with the development of photovoltaic systems. Its purpose is to measure the irradiance value from the sun.
https://suryalogix.com/irradiance-sensor/
Irradiance sensors
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Note added at 10 Tage (2024-03-22 11:38:15 GMT)
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Since I have noticed that my reference list has been broken off here for unknown reasons, I would like to add the missing ones.
Further references on the identity of cells and sensors:
Irradiance sensor (SE1000-SEN-IRR-S1)
• The irradiance sensor is a high-quality solar cell. It measures solar irradiance levels for photovoltaic systems.
https://segensolar.co.za/product/solaredge/environmental-sen...
A silicon solar cell can be used as an irradiance sensor, because the short-circuit current is proportional to the irradiance
https://www.imt-solar.com/fileadmin/docs/en/products/Si-Sens...
The Irradiance Sensor is a high-quality solar cell that measures solar irradiance levels for commercial PV systems. The sensor's irradiance output signal is 0 to 1V covering a 0 to 1000W/m2 range
https://www.solaredge.com/en/products/metering-and-sensors/e...
Silicon solar irradiation sensors (Reference cells or Si sensors) offer an economical but robust and reliable solution for measuring solar irradiance levels, particularly for monitoring photovoltaic systems. The design of the sensor element, which corresponds to that of a photovoltaic module, make these sensors ideally suited as a reference for monitoring photovoltaic systems.
https://www.imt-solar.com/solar-irradiance-sensors/
The irradiance sensors of the Si-Series measure via a monocrystalline silicium solar cell the solar irradiance. To minimize influences of temperature to the measuring signal all of our irradiance sensors are using an active temperature compensation via a temperature sensor laminated to the back surface of the solar cell.
Additionally to the solar irradiance measurement our Si-Sensors with the extension “-T” are able to measure the solar cell temperature. This solar cell temperature can approximately be used as module temperature.
https://www.meteocontrol.com/fileadmin/Daten/Dokumente/IT/1_...
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philgoddard
: Maybe, but that's not what the French says, and once again your answer doesn't merit a 5.
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I just completed an electrotechnical webinar this morning and can now answer. The manufacturer Webdyn uses the English term "Irradiation and Temperature Sensor", like the global market leader SMA.
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Bashiqa
: Where does the question mention temperature? Do you really think that N number of references makes it correct?
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The questioner asks for the English name of a combined irradiation and temperature sensor distributed by Webdyn. Why not search for their product in English?
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Schtroumpf
: "Capteur de température et irradiation" (https://www.webdyn.com/fr/produit/sens-irradiation-capteur-d... Ce n'est pas le terme qui était demandé - comme souvent chez vous. // Irridation sensor or irritation?? SCNR :o)))
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DIdn't you read my answers to Phil and Bashiqa? Why do not agree to the shorted version irridation sensor?
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For the moment i can only find your phrase in the context of nuclear energy
https://www.asn.fr/l-asn-informe/dossiers-pedagogiques/les-i...
Outre les centrales nucléaires de production d'électricité ... cellule d'essai. © G.Lesénéchal/CEA. Le réacteur ... Les cellules d'irradiation de ces installations ...
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In the context of solar energy I can find
capteur d'irradiation solaire
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Capteur d’irradiation ener...
https://www.asn.fr/l-asn-informe/dossiers-pedagogiques/les-i...
Outre les centrales nucléaires de production d'électricité ... cellule d'essai. © G.Lesénéchal/CEA. Le réacteur ... Les cellules d'irradiation de ces installations ...
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In the context of solar energy I can find
capteur d'irradiation solaire
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Capteur d’irradiation ener...
Discussion
https://www.bosch-sensortec.com/products/environmental-senso...
This exemplifies many other sensors. It should be emphasised that these are chips located in a housing and note that, as a factory inspector, I have checked many manufacturers for compliance to standards, including for gas sensors, and am therefore familiar with their internal layout.
The Silvanet Wildfire Sensor is designed to detect forest fires within minutes, often during their early smoldering phase, greatly reducing the risk of them spreading out of control. Sensor is designed to detect forest fires within minutes, often during their early smoldering phase greatly reducing the risk of them spreading out of control. Our solar-powered wildfire sensors use LoRaWAN for wireless data transmission and can run maintenance-free for up to 15 years without the need for batteries, avoiding the use of lithium and other toxic materials.
https://www.dryad.net/wildfiresensor
Silvanet Wildfire Sensor
Solar Panel 6x6cm
Gas Sensor Bosch BME688
Size 3.0 x 3.0 x 0.93 mm
Pressure: 300 to 1100 hPa
Humidity: 0 to 100%
Temperature: -40 to 85°C
Sensors CO, CO2, H2, VOC, Temperature, Humidity, Air Pressure
https://www.dryad.net/_files/ugd/072dcb_f7e61a91d1074df3a91e...
noun. Antonyms: deep serious significant intemperate compact
indigestible
demanding
Spatial dependence of the radiator and irradiated point in 3D.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Spatial-dependence-of-th...
religiosus = conscientious, faithful, God-fearing, pious, holy
irreligiosus = godless
iniustus = unjust, unfair, wrong
iustus = just, honest, upright, lawful, right
Again: Radiation is the light emitted from any source.
Irradiation is the received light from the source.
The context deals only with irradiation.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellule_photoélectrique
La cellule photoconductrice
C’est un capteur résistif qui est caractérisé par l’influence du flux de rayonnement reçu sur la valeur de sa résistance.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capteur_de_proximité#Capteur_d...
A sensor is a device that produces an output signal for the purpose of detecting a physical phenomenon.
In the broadest definition, a sensor is a device, module, machine, or subsystem that detects events or changes in its environment and sends the information to other electronics, frequently a computer processor.
Analog sensors such as potentiometers and force-sensing resistors are still widely used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensor
Note: A metering instrument is a device (containing sensors for sensing environmental values)
D'ailleurs, cette terminologie est également utilisée par sevensensor.com :
"Irradiance sensors are devices that measure the amount of sunlight that falls on a specific surface in a given time period. These sensors are widely used in photovoltaic (PV) plants to measure the amount of solar radiation that is available for conversion into electricity."
https://www.sevensensor.com/irradiance-sensor-types-and-usag...
Je trouve un peu agaçant qu'au lieu de valoriser ma contribution, vous estimez utile d'y répondre... à côté. Le demandeur Mark a pourtant posé sa question précisément ainsi :
""Irradiation CELL" doesn't sound right to me" !
I measured temperatures electronically for 16 years during my professional career and always used a reference point. A simple example would be a thermocouple with hot and cold leads.
Conclusion: the reference cell is a necessary part of the irradiation sensor, but not the irradiation sensor itself.
Incidentally, we do not need to rely on competitors if the customer WebdynSun has already chosen or coined the term itself.
"Le capteur d’irradiance solaire à cellule de référence est la meilleure solution pour la surveillance des centrales solaires photovoltaïques car il s’agit d’une miniature de panneaux photovoltaïques. [...]
Le courant de la cellule de référence est mesuré en mesurant la tension aux bornes d’une petite résistance incluse dans le module de la cellule de référence."
https://www.sevensensor.com/fr/etude-comparative-des-pyranom...
Et bien évidemment la cellule s'appelle cell en anglais :
https://www.sevensensor.com/comparison-of-pyranometers-vs-re...
Je n'ai pas cherché plus loin et vous laisse vérifier la fiabilité de cette piste. Bonne soirée !
There is some confusion in the use of these two words.
Relevant answer: It just depends on the point of view of view. Radiation is the energy emitted by a source. Irradiation is the process of exposing an object to radiation.
https://www.researchgate.net/topic/Radiation
This energy must penetrate the air layer and any clouds and is further reduced by the angle of incidence and any shading from trees and neighbouring buildings.
If only the "Irradiation sensor" is emphasised in the context, the name can be shortend to "Irradiation Sensor". You wouldn't rename the United States of America either.
https://www.solartradesales.co.uk/Cache/Downloads/Sunny-beam...
There are also units that can be installed directly onto solar modules and measure irradiation and temperature, see here
https://documents.unboundsolar.com/media/sma-sunny-sensor-bo...