French term
sur tout ce que ce monde compte de brutes
L’auteure d’« Harry Potter » louait l’esprit rebelle, le courage, l’humour et l’irrévérence dont
elles étaient l’expression, tout en remarquant à quel point ces lettres offraient de leur auteure une
image bien plus complète que ses autobiographies. On l'y voit souvent aux prises avec les
opinions et les caprices de ses sœurs, et tirer à boulets rouges sur tout ce que ce monde compte
de brutes. Rowling sait reconnaître un livre palpitant quand elle en croise un: la correspondance
de Jessica Mitford est proprement fascinante
Merci,
Barbara
3 +2 | against this world's bullies | Ana Vozone |
3 +1 | all the brutes to be found in the world | katsy |
bullies, wherever she found them | Ph_B (X) |
Feb 23, 2019 12:17: Rachel Fell changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
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Proposed translations
against this world's bullies
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Note added at 8 mins (2019-02-23 10:48:57 GMT)
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http://books.google.pt/books?id=ikCxCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA185&lpg=PA...
Son, it is all too easy to let this world's bullies puncture your pride, set you on a wild-goose chase of doing whatever crazy thing it takes to “show them.” Don't be a hamster on that wheel. We real men ...
Indeed you have put yourself there, for Tolkien himself called this world's bullies who detest life in its infinite variety “orcs.”
all the brutes to be found in the world
I would contend that if a 'bully' is a 'brute' , a 'brute' is not necessarily a 'bully'.
'Brute' in French : see definition B here:http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/brute
I think nevertheless that Tony M's rewording above would be fine,even if I am not happy about bully.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: IMHO, "bully" is the most faithful. CNTRL ref is good (subst. fém.): "B.− Au fig. Personne dont le comportement (violence, sensualité effrénée), le manque d'intelligence et de culture, l'absence de sensibilité et de règles morales font penser à un animal"
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Precisely the ref. I chose to justify brute. I'm not arguing necessarily against bully but the context given does not IMO clearly justify the more restricted term of bully. Thanks for your comments Nikki :-)
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Yvonne Gallagher
: why not? Brutish behaviour is not confined to schoolyards. (Though it's wrong to liken such people to animals imo!)
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Well exactly! As I said the 2 terms are not interchangeable; brute is more general. I see no reference to a school in the original text. It is about JK Rowling writing about the letters of J. Mitford...Thanks Yvonne :-)
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Ph_B (X)
: or the bullies to be found in a flipping newspaper article :-)
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Sigh.... :-) Well that's me told! Thanks for your reference below!
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Reference comments
bullies, wherever she found them
Simon Garfield: "in praise of the letter", The Guardian, 25th October 2013
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/25/simon-garfield...
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Sorry, the ref should read: The Guardian, 25th October 2013
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Note added at 6 hrs (2019-02-23 17:05:17 GMT)
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And now I realize I inserted a comma where there should be none. Oh dear.
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Tony M
: Well found! Surprising how a little elementary research can bear fruit!
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katsy
: well, there we are then!!
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Victoria Britten
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Yvonne Gallagher
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