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eşek gibi

English translation: whether s/he likes it or not

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Turkish term or phrase:eşek gibi
English translation:whether s/he likes it or not
Entered by: Mehmet Hascan

10:24 Nov 27, 2009
Turkish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Slang
Turkish term or phrase: eşek gibi
Looking for something a wee bit more dramatic than 'of course..' or 'he has no choice but.. '.

Context: 'Eşek gibi verecek.. hele bi vermesin..'

Cheers,
Nagme Yazgin
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:39
..., whether s/he likes it or not.
Explanation:
..., whether s/he likes it or not.

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Note added at 26 mins (2009-11-27 10:51:18 GMT)
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- S/he'll just have to like it or lump it!

- S/he'll just have to give it (to ..). There's bugger all she can do about it!

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Note added at 31 mins (2009-11-27 10:55:48 GMT)
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- S/he is going to have to put that in her/ his pipe and smoke it!

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-27 12:20:37 GMT)
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- as if she would dare!
Selected response from:

Mehmet Hascan
Ireland
Local time: 00:39
Grading comment
Although "willy-nilly" seems to be the most popular answer, I'd use "willy-nilly" for "istemeye istemeye/ister istemez", rather than "esek gibi". "Esek gibi" is a lot cheekier than "reluctantly".
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3willy-nilly
Ali Bayraktar
4 +2..., whether s/he likes it or not.
Mehmet Hascan
5No Way Out OR No Matter What It Takes!
Salih YILDIRIM
5nolens volens
Nigar Mancini
3inevitably/without choice
Erkan Dogan


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
No Way Out OR No Matter What It Takes!


Explanation:
Although there are too many more idiomatic expressions with close sense, these are only two thereof for the time being happened to me.

Salih YILDIRIM
United States
Local time: 19:39
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
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40 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
willy-nilly


Explanation:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/willy_nilly

Ali Bayraktar
Türkiye
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nigar Mancini
30 mins
  -> Teşekkür Ederim
agree  Bee Baran: İyi bayramlar.
5 hrs
  -> Teşekkür Ederim. Mutlu Bayramlar Dilerim.
agree  Erkan Dogan
6 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
nolens volens


Explanation:
M. Ali Bey'in "willy-nilly" yanıtını çok beğendimi ve bu terimi ilk kez duyduğumu söylemeliyim. Ayrıca maillere her gün düşen " a word a day" maillerinden birinde bu karşılığı da görmüştüm ve ilgimi çekmişti.. Tam anlamıyla bizdeki "istese de istemese de.."nin karşılığı. Eşek gibi için de iyi bir karşılık olabilir diye düşünüyorum. Saygılarımla...

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-27 11:45:52 GMT)
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nolens volens >> Latin for "whether willing or not"


    Reference: http://wordsmith.org/words/nolens_volens.html
    Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nolens+volens
Nigar Mancini
Italy
Local time: 01:39
Native speaker of: Turkish
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
..., whether s/he likes it or not.


Explanation:
..., whether s/he likes it or not.

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Note added at 26 mins (2009-11-27 10:51:18 GMT)
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- S/he'll just have to like it or lump it!

- S/he'll just have to give it (to ..). There's bugger all she can do about it!

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Note added at 31 mins (2009-11-27 10:55:48 GMT)
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- S/he is going to have to put that in her/ his pipe and smoke it!

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-11-27 12:20:37 GMT)
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- as if she would dare!

Mehmet Hascan
Ireland
Local time: 00:39
Native speaker of: Turkish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Although "willy-nilly" seems to be the most popular answer, I'd use "willy-nilly" for "istemeye istemeye/ister istemez", rather than "esek gibi". "Esek gibi" is a lot cheekier than "reluctantly".

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jim Tucker (X): or simply "like it or not"
47 mins
  -> Thank you, Jim.
agree  Bee Baran: İyi bayramlar.
5 hrs
  -> Teşekkür ederim. Size de iyi bayramlar.
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
inevitably/without choice


Explanation:
İngilizce'de (kültür olarak) "eşek gibi yapacak/yapacağım" gibi kinayeli ve zorlayıcılığı açıklayıcı bir terim olduğunu zannetmiyorum açıkçası. En iyi ihtimaller zaten verilmiş gördüğüm kadarıyla, ama belki "kaçınılmazlığı" ifade etmek için "inevitably" kullanılabilir. Ama her ne olursa olsun, "eşek gibi"nin yerini tutmuyor hiçbiri :)))

Erkan Dogan
United States
Local time: 18:39
Native speaker of: Turkish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Çok haklısınız, Türkçe harika bir dil! :D

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