puras condiciones u onerosas

English translation: simple/straightforward or onerous conditions

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Spanish term or phrase:puras condiciones u onerosas
English translation:simple/straightforward or onerous conditions
Entered by: Thomas Walker

17:08 Jan 7, 2021
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Power of attorney
Spanish term or phrase: puras condiciones u onerosas
Happy New Year to all!
I encountered this phrase in a power of attorney from Puerto Rico. There is a long list of actions the power of attorney may take, of which this is one:
"QUINTO Aceptar donaciones de cualquier clase de bienes, ya sean puras condiciones u onerosas." That's all there is for this provision.
My gut feeling is that it means something like "whether free and clear or burdened by mortgage or other debt", but I haven't been able to run down any confirmation of this hypothesis, or any alternate hypothesis.
Would greatly appreciate any insight on this troublesome (to me, at least) phrase. Thanks in advance.
Thomas Walker
United States
Local time: 05:44
simple/straightforward or onerous conditions
Explanation:

Onerous Condition means for these purposes, an action that requires a difficult or significant expenditure, in comparison to the size, resources and school budget; or changes in the structure of the institution not allowed by law or construction policies, in particular, those applicable to buildings of a historical ...

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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:44
Grading comment
Thanks, Chris. And thanks to all who participated in the discussion. The question itself was not simple/straightforward, with questions raised about possible typo, etc.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3whether the gifts -.... are outright, conditional or onerous/ to the donee /
Adrian MM.
4pure or onerous conditions; pure conditions or onerous; pure or expensive conditions
Décio Adams
4encumbered and unencumbered
David Hollywood
3mere conditions or of valuable consideration
Steven Huddleston
3simple/straightforward or onerous conditions
AllegroTrans
Summary of reference entries provided
Refs.
Taña Dalglish

Discussion entries: 3





  

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mere conditions or of valuable consideration


Explanation:
Meaning something of actual, quantifiable value.

Steven Huddleston
Mexico
Local time: 06:44
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simple/straightforward or onerous conditions


Explanation:

Onerous Condition means for these purposes, an action that requires a difficult or significant expenditure, in comparison to the size, resources and school budget; or changes in the structure of the institution not allowed by law or construction policies, in particular, those applicable to buildings of a historical ...

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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:44
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Grading comment
Thanks, Chris. And thanks to all who participated in the discussion. The question itself was not simple/straightforward, with questions raised about possible typo, etc.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
pure or onerous conditions; pure conditions or onerous; pure or expensive conditions


Explanation:
Estas fueran las respuestas que encontré en el Deepl traductor. Todas dijen la misma cosa, de forma poco distinta.

Décio Adams
Brazil
Local time: 09:44
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: Anything to show these terms are actually used?
3 hrs
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PR: donaciones ... ya sean puras, condicionales u onerosas
whether the gifts -.... are outright, conditional or onerous/ to the donee /


Explanation:
I am wavering or Scots: havering between Steve H's good - for natural love and affection - and valuable consideration or Allegro's likelier onerous construction, whilst agree with Taña D.'s typo proposition: 'the further South from Spain, the sloppier and slovenlier the legal drafting and creative set of accounts get' was the motto in our Madrid law office.

BTW, these formd of gift also exist in Anglo-Am law, the dividing line between a conditional gift and a trust being the subject of many a writ in Chancery.

Example sentence(s):
  • onerous - made with a burden or obligation imposed on the donee.
  • ONEROUS GIFT, civil law. The gift of a thing subject to certain charges which the giver has imposed on the donee

    Reference: http://www.franciscomarinopardo.es/mis-temas/24-civil-obliga...
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_(law)
Adrian MM.
Austria
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 570

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
11 hrs
  -> Thanks and gracias.

agree  EirTranslations
11 hrs
  -> Gracias and thanks.

agree  Robert Carter: Would seem the most likely interpretation.
2 days 19 hrs
  -> West also gives unconditional gift for 'donación pura'.
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encumbered and unencumbered


Explanation:
I would suggest in the context of donations

David Hollywood
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Reference comments


31 mins peer agreement (net): +4
Reference: Refs.

Reference information:
Tom: Are you sure there isn't an error and it should read, "... puras, condicionales y onerosas"?


las donaciones 3 - Derecho Sucesorioderechosucesorio.es.tl › las-donacion...
https://derechosucesorio.es.tl/las-donaciones-3.htm
Atendiendo a sus efectos, se clasifican en puras, condicionales y onerosas. Son puras, aquellas en que la liberalidad del Donante no se halla desvalorizada ...

71 - Notarios y Registradores www.notariosyregistradores.com › registros-civil
DOC
... se distingue entre donaciones puras, condicionales y onerosas. VI. POR SU RÉGIMEN ESPECIAL, mencionamos,. 1) Las "liberalidades al uso". Son aquellas ...

Respuestas en Derecho: La donación (I)respuestasenderecho.blogspot.com › ...
http://respuestasenderecho.blogspot.com/2009/08/la-donacion-...
Aug 11, 2009 — Si bien el art 621 señala que "Las donaciones que hayan de producir ... impropias (tienen algún otro motivo), puras condicionales y onerosas
Las donaciones pueden clasificarse intervivos o mortiscausa, propias (tienen como causa la liberalidad del causante) o impropias (tienen algún otro motivo), ***puras, condicionales y onerosas****

Tema069 Derecho Civil (01_2017) - notinnotin.es › wp-content › uploads › 2019/06 › Tema069-...
DOC
POR SUS EFECTOS se distinguen las donaciones **puras, CONDICIONALES Y ONEROSAS***. También, por razón del momento en que se producen sus efectos, ...

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No results found for accept "purely conditional or onerous donations".
Results for accept purely conditional or onerous donations (without quotes):

Successions and Donations - Monroe Library at Loyola ...people.loyno.edu › ~ebls › donationsoutline-h
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If we take the subjective theory to its logical extent, no donation is purely gratuitous. ... Purely gratuitous, onerous donation (something given for something else), ...

http://lex-estudyante.blogspot.com/2013/08/donations.html
· Kinds of donation INTER VIVOS
1) pure/simple
2) remuneratory
3) conditional
4) onerous

Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 735
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks for your work on this, Taña. The text I quoted is a correct copy from the document I'm working with. Obviously, however, that doesn't eliminate the possibility that it was wrong already in the original.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  philgoddard
5 hrs
  -> Thanks. I did not say a donation could be for consideration (wrong person!)/Well, I think you could have been clearer in thought! I did mention four types of donations: pure/simple; remuneratory; conditional; and onerous (burdensome?).
agree  Adrian MM.
8 hrs
  -> Thank you.
agree  Toni Castano: Yes, it´s a typo.
15 hrs
  -> Thanks Toni.
agree  Robert Carter
3 days 4 hrs
  -> Thanks. Stay safe!
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