deslinde / deslindar

English translation: claim (to the land)

17:28 Jul 30, 2020
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History
Spanish term or phrase: deslinde / deslindar
This is a text about how Indigenous peoples in Argentina have been denied land rights since colonial times:

Alurralde ganó el juicio pese a no exhibir ningún título de propiedad de tierras, aduciendo que los papeles se le habían quemado o perdido, solo apelando a la Audiencia, un tribunal judicial en Charcas. En el juicio había sido convocado como testigo de un deslinde Gregorio Arragua, indio Chuscha, pero no se registra su presencia.
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En 1805, Nicolás de Molina, un vecino de la zona y funcionario del Cabildo, deslinda la legua del pueblo de indios Chuschagasta de la estancia de la familia Martínez, porque esta denunciaba que al avanzar Alurralde sobre Chuscha, corría los límites del pueblo sobre los de su estancia, como en un efecto dominó

the second use seems to be "carve out land" but not sure about the first, Thanks
Wendy Gosselin
Argentina
Local time: 06:04
English translation:claim (to the land)
Explanation:
The Academia Real definition of "deslindar" is: "Señalar y distinguir los términos de un lugar, provincia, o heredad."
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Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
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Summary of answers provided
4demarcation line/determines/establishes the boundary of
Barbara Cochran, MFA
4delimitation/ differentiate
Alfonso Rodriguez
4claim (to the land)
Muriel Vasconcellos
4separation / separate (land grab)
neilmac
3delimit/delimits
Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
2 +1boundary line / bound off - plot out of
Adrian MM.
3boundary / to define territory
Lisa Rosengard


  

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delimit/delimits


Explanation:
http://www.focusonland.com/fola/en/countries/brief-protectin...

Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
Mexico
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demarcation line/determines/establishes the boundary of


Explanation:
https://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/deslindar

Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 05:04
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delimitation/ differentiate


Explanation:
"como testigo de un deslinde"....as a witness of a delimitation, since they are talking about land rights.

" deslinda la legua del pueblo de indios Chuschagasta de la estancia de la familia Martínez", here, they are talking about a differentiation, the difference between one tongue or language and another....

Example sentence(s):
  • Se hizo un deslinde con relación a los dos terrenos...
  • Hay que deslindar las responsabilidades de cada miembro de la asociación...
Alfonso Rodriguez
United States
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
boundary line / bound off - plot out of


Explanation:
como testigo de un deslinde: as one boundary (line) witness ('abutter' if a neighbour).

...deslinda la legua del pueblo de indios Chuschagasta de la estancia de la familia Martínez : bound the league-curtilage of the village .... off the ranch / farm of..... / plotted the .....out of the....

bound off not the same as bouncing - also compare binding over to keep the peace.

Segregar: partition or carve
out of...

Example sentence(s):
  • En 1662 el gobernador del Río de la Plata, Alonso Mercado y Villacorta, firmó un tratado de paz con tribus cayaguatáes, tocagües y vilos, por las cuales estas debían retirarse dos leguas al sur de La Baxada.
  • curtilage in a sentence - how to use "curtilage" in a sentence... eng.ichacha.net/zaoju/curtilage.htmlIm Cache In a rural context, the terms town boundary, village curtilage or village envelope may be used to apply the same constraining principles.

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/6398036-acción...
    Reference: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/bounded
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rebecca Reddin: https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.tsps.org/resource/resmgr/conventio...
18 hrs
  -> Gracias and thanks for the weblink - as per my profile, planning and boundary disputes with neighbo/u/rs started me off in the law.
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claim (to the land)


Explanation:
The Academia Real definition of "deslindar" is: "Señalar y distinguir los términos de un lugar, provincia, o heredad."

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
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separation / separate (land grab)


Explanation:
Another option could be "annexed/annexation".
Cf."land grab" -
noun
an act of seizing land in an opportunistic or unlawful manner.
"a ruthless land grab by paramilitary groups"

Example sentence(s):
  • https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/land%20grab

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_grabbing
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/land%20grab
neilmac
Spain
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boundary / to define territory


Explanation:
The information describes a trial called to witness a boundary, without noting presence.
A neighbour of the township and civil servant at the town council marked the boundary line.

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Note added at 3 days 8 hrs (2020-08-03 01:37:35 GMT)
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"En 1805 un vecino de la zona y funcionario del cabildo deslinda la legua del pueblo de indios de la estancia de la familia porque esta denunciaba que al avanzar corría los límites del pueblo sobre los de su estancia que en efecto dominó .."
"In 1805 a neighbour in the locality and civil servant at the town council defined the mile line of the Indian town-ship by the family's abode because it denounced that on advancing it lay on the town's limits or boundary lines by those of the family's home, which effectively dominated.."

Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
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