право на существование

English translation: are legitimate, plausible, viable, worthy of consideration

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Russian term or phrase:право на существование
English translation:are legitimate, plausible, viable, worthy of consideration
Entered by: Susan Welsh

18:43 Sep 12, 2018
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / procrastination
Russian term or phrase: право на существование
The author describes both destructive (functional) procrastination and dysfunctional procrastination, as discussed in the scientific literature.

Оба подхода имеют право на существование и содержат под собой ряд научных подтверждений, но возникает сомнение – об одном ли феномене идет речь в этих работах.

This idea that something "has a right to exist" is rather common in Russian, but sounds very odd in English. Is there some nuance in the Russian that would help me to translate it better? Does it imply that both approaches are worth pursuing? Or maybe that there is evidence for both points of view? Or is it just a throwaway phrase that doesn't really mean anything at all?
Susan Welsh
United States
Local time: 09:12
are legitimate
Explanation:
But it seems to me that the main point in the sentence is not the legitimacy of the two approaches, but the suggestion that maybe they're one and the same.
Selected response from:

Rachel Douglas
United States
Local time: 09:12
Grading comment
There are lots of good suggestions here, but I like this one the best. Thanks everybody!
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4While both approaches are viable...
Olena B.
4 +2are legitimate
Rachel Douglas
3 +1are plausible
Nik-On/Off
3right to existence
Oleg Lozinskiy
3are worth studying/consideration
Anastassiya Feber


Discussion entries: 2





  

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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
are plausible


Explanation:
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Nik-On/Off
Ukraine
Local time: 15:12
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oleg Lozinskiy: 'Plausible' = 'seeming likely to be true, or able to be believed' https://dictionary.cambridge.org/ru/словарь/английский/plaus...
53 mins
  -> верно

agree  Vladyslav Golovaty
4 hrs
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
While both approaches are viable...


Explanation:
viable

Olena B.
Poland
Local time: 14:12
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DTSM
16 mins

agree  Alexander Onishko
26 mins

neutral  Oleg Lozinskiy: 'Viable' = 'able to work as intended or able to succeed' https://dictionary.cambridge.org/ru/словарь/английский/viabl...
52 mins

agree  IrinaN
1 hr

agree  Jack Doughty
2 hrs

neutral  The Misha: I don't mind this per se, but rather your absolute certainty on the issue. There's definitely more ways than one to skin a cat.
2 hrs
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
right to existence


Explanation:
Не нравится 'right to exist' --> замените на 'right to existence' или на 'existential rights'.

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Note added at 21 мин (2018-09-12 19:05:01 GMT)
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The right to exist is said to be an attribute of nations. According to an essay by the nineteenth century French philosopher Ernest Renan, a state has the right to exist when individuals are willing to sacrifice their own interests for the community it represents. Unlike self-determination, the right to exist is an attribute of states rather than of peoples. It is not a right recognized in international law. The phrase has featured prominently in the Arab–Israeli conflict since the 1950s.

The right to exist of a de facto state may be balanced against another state's right to territorial integrity.[1] Proponents of the right to exist trace it back to the "right of existence", said to be a fundamental right of states recognized by writers on international law for hundreds of years.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_exist

right to existence --> http://context.reverso.net/перевод/английский-русский/right ...

existential rights -->
Declaration of Existential Rights (Rights of existence) For Sentient and Non-Sentient Life, For The Species And The Individual Paperback – February 16, 2000
by Andromeda Knecht (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Declaration-Existential-existence-Non...

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Note added at 56 мин (2018-09-12 19:39:59 GMT)
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To: ASKER

Sorry, but the 'how to translate' question is 'nil' (no phrase to translate, no context - just your speculations to comment).

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Note added at 1 час (2018-09-12 19:43:47 GMT)
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BTW, could you, please, tell me what does a 'particular scientific opinion' mean? All opinions (be it 'scientific' or otherwise) has their own 'existential rights'.

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Note added at 1 час (2018-09-12 19:46:07 GMT)
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And, please, explain whether a 'commonly used' is equal to 'MUST be used'.

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Note added at 1 час (2018-09-12 20:01:28 GMT)
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And, please, explain how 'particular scientific opinion' correlates with 'commonly used (in EN) parlance'.

Oleg Lozinskiy
Russian Federation
Local time: 16:12
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 56
Notes to answerer
Asker: The right of a nation or a people to exist is not the same as the "right" of a particular scientific opinion to exist. The former is commonly used in EN; the latter is not.

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
are legitimate


Explanation:
But it seems to me that the main point in the sentence is not the legitimacy of the two approaches, but the suggestion that maybe they're one and the same.

Rachel Douglas
United States
Local time: 09:12
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 60
Grading comment
There are lots of good suggestions here, but I like this one the best. Thanks everybody!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Rachel! Actually it refers to DOUBT that they are one and the same (i.e. both are "procrastination"). Be that as it may, I still need to translate "the right to exist." I think your suggestion is a good one.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  The Misha: That was what I thought of first too.
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Misha.

agree  DTSM
10 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
are worth studying/consideration


Explanation:
Both approaches are good and thought-out well enough to turn out to be useful or applicable (at least in some circumstances)
Neither one, nor another can be disregarded and "thrown away" as the wrong one or useless.

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Note added at 10 час (2018-09-13 05:17:29 GMT)
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nor the other

Anastassiya Feber
Kazakhstan
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of: Russian
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