Процессию из четырех первых звезд замыкают остальные три, следующие за ними.

English translation: The procession of the first four stars is closed by the remaining four following them

00:59 Dec 5, 2009

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Science - Astronomy & Space / Constellations, Pleiades

Russian term or phrase: Процессию из четырех первых звезд замыкают остальные три, следующие за ними.

How should I translate "Процессию" and "замыкают" in the following phrase?

Neither "precession" nor "procession" make sense to me in this context, which is dealing with the celestial behavior in the Pleaides as seen in the spring in Central Asia.

What am I missing here?

Chris Lovelace KudoZ activity Questions: 21 (none open) Answers: 17 Argentina
Local time: 09:30

English translation:The procession of the first four stars is closed by the remaining four following them

Explanation:
That is, there are now seven stars in procession.
Examples of "close the procession":
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A Dictionary of polite literature; or, Fabulous history of the ... - Google Books Result
1804 - Juvenile Nonfiction - 17 pages
to close the procession, an old man appeared on an ass, offering wine to the fatigued youth, who had returned from a prosperous chase, and invited them to ...
books.google.com/books?id=yQfAtoHuW0IC...
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Queen Victoria Wedding
... the maids of honor, the women of the bed chamber, the gold stick, and six gentlemen of arms, and as many yeomen of the guard to close the procession. ...
www.victorianamagazine.com/royalty/queenvictoria.htm - Cached - Similar
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Full text of "Funeral ceremony to be observed at the burial of ...
... the brothers shall re-form in procession after them in reversed order, and close the procession into and within the place of interment. ...
www.archive.org/.../funeralceremonyt00inderich_djvu.txt

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Note added at 1 day20 hrs (2009-12-06 21:13:53 GMT)
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ooops! ....remaining three not four..

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Note added at 1 day20 hrs (2009-12-06 21:23:18 GMT)
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procession of stars is a common expression in astronomy, e.g.,
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The seven sisters of the Pleiades: stories from around the world - Google Books Result
by Munya Andrews - 2005 - Social Science - 368 pages
'As the Earth rotates, a steady procession of stars seems to move across the sky, with some stars passing right overhead.'140 Therefore, 'If you change your ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=1876756454...
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Hidden Dimensions of Astronomy
"The description of this march or procession of stars gives us simple astronomical truths. Though scholars have hitherto refused to believe that the ...
www.blavatsky.net/magazine/.../HiddenPartsOfAstronomy.html

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Jack slep
Local time: 11:30

Grading comment

Thanks! The links and examples helped a lot. It was hard to pick between your answer and Judith's, which I see as very similar to each other.
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Summary of answers provided

3 +1

The progression of the first four... ends with the remaining three, which follow...

Judith Hehir

The train of the first four stars is completed with the other three following stars

Farida Vyachkileva

the three remaining stars bringing up the tail of the procession formed by the first four (ones)

Michael Korovkin

The procession of the first four stars is closed by the remaining four following them

Jack slep

other tree... are closing the file in the procession of four close the file

Alexandra Taggart

Discussion entries: 7

Judith Hehir

United States

Thanks, James.

15:19 Dec 5, 2009

All of that is helpful.

James McVay

United States

15:12 Dec 5, 2009

Sometimes a picture can help. See a photo and map of the Pleiades here: http://www.glyphweb.com/esky/clusters/pleiades.html. I see four stars on the right, with the remaining three sort of trailing off to the left. That approximates the Russian description, which plays off the mythology given in the text.

Chris Lovelace

Argentina

ASKER

Here's a larger piece of the context, if it helps

14:44 Dec 5, 2009

Все казахские мифы о звездах, Солнце и Лупе, как бы они ни были фантастичны, своеобразно отражают скотоводческую жизнь народа. Вот, например, упоминавшийся уже миф о Большой Медведице: (Ursa Major, CL)
«Семеро разбойников (the Pleiades, CL) грабили всех, кто встречался им на пути. Собрался народ и решил наказать их. Но они убежали от преследования на небо, превратившись в звезды. Процессию из четырех первых звезд замыкают остальные три, следующие за ними. А те две светлые звезды, что расположены неподалеку (ото уже звезды Малой Медведицы. — С. К.), — это братья-батыры. Недалеко стоящие еще две звезды — кони батыров — Ак-бозат (Белый копь) и Кокбозат (Сизый конь). Они привязаны к Железному колу (Темiрказык — так называется Полярная звезда. — С. К.), вон виден даже их аркан. Кони пасутся вокруг Железного кола. Семь воров всю ночь охотятся за ними и хотят во что бы то ни стало украсть их. Но зоркие сторожа не спускают с них глаз. Когда наступает рассвет, Семь воров скрываются» 26.

I don't think a "gravity-induced change in trajectory, period, etc." works here. Rather, this is some sort of occlusion or occultation, I think. But again, I lack the tchnical term for this.

James McVay

United States

Definitely not "precession"

14:20 Dec 5, 2009

In astronomy, precession refers to a gravity-induced slow but continuous change in an astronomical body's rotational axis or orbital path.

Judith Hehir

United States

Interesting.

14:16 Dec 5, 2009

That search also produces "precession," which, apparently, Chris already discovered. Hmmm. I wouldn't know the difference between the two (pre- and pro-cession, that is). Any astronomers out there who can help?

James McVay

United States

13:43 Dec 5, 2009

Actually, I think you can use "procession." Google "procession of stars" +astronomy and see what you think.

Dr Lofthouse

France

01:13 Dec 5, 2009

Приводим текст о "семь сестер" (7 Sisters) -. Стеропа, Меропа, Электра, Майя, Тайгете, Целено и Alcyone?

Answers

36 mins confidence:

other tree... are closing the file in the procession of four close the file

Explanation:
three of them bring up the rear of four

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Note added at 38 mins (2009-12-05 01:38:12 GMT)
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Sorry, I have not removed the unnecessary, also "three".

Alexandra Taggart
Russian Federation
Local time: 18:30
Meets criteria
Native speaker of:

English,

Russian

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

The progression of the first four... ends with the remaining three, which follow...

Explanation:
Not sure. But I found "progression" in the following:
http://www.telescope.org/nuffield_21_sci/constellations/cons...

Judith Hehir
United States
Local time: 11:30
Meets criteria
Native speaker of: English

6 hrs confidence:

The train of the first four stars is completed with the other three following stars

Explanation:
Or-the line of the first four stars terminates with the other three succeed stars

Farida Vyachkileva
Local time: 18:30
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Russian

1 day 9 hrs confidence:

the three remaining stars bringing up the tail of the procession formed by the first four (ones)

Explanation:
...

Michael Korovkin
Italy
Local time: 17:30
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Russian

1 day 20 hrs confidence:

The procession of the first four stars is closed by the remaining four following them

Jack slep
Local time: 11:30
Meets criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thanks! The links and examples helped a lot. It was hard to pick between your answer and Judith's, which I see as very similar to each other.

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Процессию из четырех первых звезд замыкают остальные три, следующие за ними.

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