motonave and M/N

English translation: (medium-size) motor vessel and M/V

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Italian term or phrase:motonave and M/N
English translation:(medium-size) motor vessel and M/V
Entered by: Adrian MM.

00:43 Sep 23, 2020
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Transport / Transportation / Shipping / official classification of a ship
Italian term or phrase: motonave and M/N
Hi,

I am hoping that someone can help me with finding the appropriate translation for M/N before the name of a ship. The text reads "... imbarcato sulla M/N .... (name of ship)". I understand that M/N stands for "motonave", but when I look up that word in an Italian to English dictionary, I get nothing helpful- "motorship" or "motor vessel". Italian definitions I've found aren't helpful for my purposes either, along the lines of "nave mercantile con apparato motore a combustione interna per il trasporto di merci o passeggieri." So, if possible, I would like your views on the meaning of "motonave" and the appropriate English abbreviation.
Your help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Isobel
isobel Grave
Australia
Local time: 20:10
(medium-size) motor vessel and M/V
Explanation:
I've traditionally used m/v or M/V - but never M/S after being ticked off - for using motor ship - by a City of London Notary and Shipping Solicitors who - laughably - have sunk without a trace.

Though the security interest is called a 'ship mortgage' or 'ship's lien', there is a distinction in the dimensions of a boat, ship and vessel.
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Adrian MM.
Austria
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Thanks very much. Adrian - I appreciate your clear direction on this one. I take Phil's point, though, about the lack of match between category and actual usage, likened to the situation with "sailing ship", in his comment to Wolfgang.
Thanks again
Isobel
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5M.S.
Wolfgang Hager
4(medium-size) motor vessel and M/V
Adrian MM.


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M.S.


Explanation:
I don't know why you consider motor ship "nothing helpful". Usually pronounced motor vessel, because motor ship is bureaucratese. But it is what it is.

Wolfgang Hager
Italy
Local time: 10:40
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
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neutral  philgoddard: I don't understand your explanation.
3 hrs
  -> nobody says "motorship", but that is the official term at the basis of the abbreviation. I live on a S.S, and no one says sailing ship, either
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(medium-size) motor vessel and M/V


Explanation:
I've traditionally used m/v or M/V - but never M/S after being ticked off - for using motor ship - by a City of London Notary and Shipping Solicitors who - laughably - have sunk without a trace.

Though the security interest is called a 'ship mortgage' or 'ship's lien', there is a distinction in the dimensions of a boat, ship and vessel.

Example sentence(s):
  • MV (M/V) Motor Vessel[7] (interchangeable with MS) - NO!
  • Generally smaller and less complex vessels are 'boats', whilst larger and more complex vessels are 'ships'. As a general rule, you can put a boat on a ship, but you can't put a ship on a boat.

    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix
    Reference: http://www.theshippinglawblog.com/2010/07/q-are-terms-boat-s...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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Thanks very much. Adrian - I appreciate your clear direction on this one. I take Phil's point, though, about the lack of match between category and actual usage, likened to the situation with "sailing ship", in his comment to Wolfgang.
Thanks again
Isobel
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