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Zeugenlage schaffen

English translation: Take statements from any witnesses

12:25 Jan 10, 2016
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Safety
German term or phrase: Zeugenlage schaffen
Bedrohung sofort (!!!) aus den Räumen nach Außen verlagern (Festsetzen und nach draußen führen).
Umgehend Standortleitung der xxxx informieren.
Keine (!!!) Diskussionen im Stehen in den Gebäuden.
Gespräch im Sitzen im Security-Raum oder bei der Standortleitung anbieten (Deeskalation versuchen).
Zeugenlage schaffen.

Instructions as to what do in dangerous situations in a refugee hostel.

Does it mean "secure witnesses"?

TIA.
jackiekiefer
English translation:Take statements from any witnesses
Explanation:
OR Establish whether there are any witnesses

(I don't think Lage refers to a location in the hostel.)

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-01-10 13:32:55 GMT)
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= testimony
http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.grosse-darstell...

= number/credibility of witnesses
http://www.frag-einen-anwalt.de/Kfz-Haftpflichtschaden---f15...

i.e. all abstract nouns
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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:04
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4Take statements from any witnesses
Lancashireman
3 +3Make sure witnesses are present
Michael Martin, MA
5establish witness body of evidence
Cillie Swart
1establish the witness’s location
barbarameyer


  

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47 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Take statements from any witnesses


Explanation:
OR Establish whether there are any witnesses

(I don't think Lage refers to a location in the hostel.)

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-01-10 13:32:55 GMT)
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= testimony
http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.grosse-darstell...

= number/credibility of witnesses
http://www.frag-einen-anwalt.de/Kfz-Haftpflichtschaden---f15...

i.e. all abstract nouns


Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ramey Rieger (X): check for witnesses
24 mins
  -> Tnanks, yes, the first thing is to ask if anyone saw the incident.
agree  Julia Burgess: Establish / find out whether or not there are witnesses to the incident
4 hrs
  -> Thanks. I suppose option 2 is the safer one here.
agree  gangels (X)
6 hrs
agree  Jonathan MacKerron: or perhaps "obtain witness testimonies"?
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Jonathan. Not sure about plural testimonies. Also, wouldn't that come later in court at the trial stage?
neutral  Michael Martin, MA: No, they don’t want to be left at the mercy of accidental witnesses that may or may not see anything. They want to be prepared and make sure there will be witnesses to any incident.
11 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
establish the witness’s location


Explanation:
Schaffen seems to be used here to mean 'establish', as in Klarheit schaffen --> to establish clarity.

Here's an example of establishing the witness’s location in a similar situation:
Establish the Witness’s Location During the Accident
First things first. Ask questions that establish how the witness came to view the accident itself -- or an important aspect of the accident, even if it’s something that occurred after the fact, such as an injured party receiving medical care.
When did the witness arrive on the scene?
Where were they coming from and where were they headed when the accident happened?
Where was the witness looking before, during, and after the accident?
How far away was the witness from key events related to the accident as those events took place?
Did the witness have a clear view of those events at all times?
http://www.all-about-car-accidents.com/resources/auto-accide...

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-01-10 13:47:58 GMT)
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Die direkten Zeugen sind oft nicht verfügbar oder nicht aussagebereit, sodass man, wenn überhaupt, nur auf Zeugen vom Hörensagen zurückgreifen kann....Zur schwierigen Zeugenlage s. auch Franklin, The Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law 9 (2008), 181(209 ff.).
http://goo.gl/gSPvoY

barbarameyer
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 2
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
establish witness body of evidence


Explanation:
This is referring to the putting together of a file or record containing all the evidence provided by witnesses.


    Reference: http://linguee.com
Cillie Swart
South Africa
Local time: 04:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Julia Burgess: I don't think legal terminology is required in this particular context.
3 hrs
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Make sure witnesses are present


Explanation:
in the first place to corroborate your version of events, if needed. That's the whole point here. That situation has to be planned for to some extent. That's where "schaffen" comes in.

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 22:04
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: or "available"? Es gilt sicherzustellen ("schaffen"), dass Zeugen für eine Aussage da (bzw. zu einer solchen bereit) sind
3 hrs
  -> Yes - that statements will be taken later doesn’t require instruction - that’s going to happen no matter what. Making sure that witnesses are available, by contrast, requires preparation, and therefore, prior instruction.
agree  seehand
2 days 12 hrs
agree  Lancashireman
13 days
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