formaler und inhaltlicher Gedankengang

English translation: thought process and (thought) content

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German term or phrase:formaler und inhaltlicher Gedankengang
English translation:thought process and (thought) content
Entered by: Anne Schulz

07:38 Apr 28, 2021
German to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Psychology
German term or phrase: formaler und inhaltlicher Gedankengang
Child psychiatry

Psychiatrischer Status: volle Orientierung über Zeit, Person und Örtlichkeit, formaler und inhaltlicher Gedankengang intakt

I would translate formaler Gedankengang intakt as "no disorganized thought", but I am nit sure about the rest.

Any shrinks out there?

Thank you!!
Lirka
Austria
Local time: 13:18
thought process and (thought) content
Explanation:
Psychiatry is not my core expertise, but I would think that the mental status dimensions "Thought process" and "Thought content" (as mentioned by Rama) are actually the terms you are looking for.

The English Wikipedia has a lot of useful terminology on this subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_status_examination

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Anne Schulz
Germany
Local time: 13:18
Grading comment
Thank you, Anne!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1good formal and logical reasoning
Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X)
4 +1form and content of thought processes
Rama Bhave
3 +2thought process and (thought) content
Anne Schulz
4(intact/normal) thought processing/processes and content
Michael Martin, MA
3thinking intact, in form and substance
Adrian MM.


  

Answers


18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
good formal and logical reasoning


Explanation:
I like this best

or
formal and logical mental abilities


Erklärung:
This is one way of phrasing it, as far as I'm concerned.

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or:
good formal and logical mental abilities

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good formal and logcial thought process

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good formal and logical reasoning

see also
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/txt/system2...

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https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10763-019-100...

Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X)
Germany
Local time: 13:18
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ramey Rieger (X): I would go with coherent instead of formal, but otherwise agree.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Ramey!
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
form and content of thought processes


Explanation:
Clinical assessment of a person's mental status is based on many domains, two of which are 'Thought process' and 'Thought content'.

Delusions reflect abnormal thought content; formal thought disorder can be manifested among patients with schizophrenia (https://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopkins/view/Johns_Hopkins_Psy...


    https://www.ucd.ie/psycheducation/samplecontent/Taking_Case_Histories/data/downloads/mentalstateexamination.pdf
    https://www.aafp.org/afp/2009/1015/p809.html
Rama Bhave
Germany
Local time: 13:18
Native speaker of: Native in MarathiMarathi

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  uyuni: One could skip 'processes' here, though... https://www.rch.org.au/clinicalguide/guideline_index/Mental_... https://geekymedics.com/mental-state-examination/ and just say 'form and content of thought normal/unremarkable'.
43 mins
  -> Yes, your right. Thanks uyuni!
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
formaler und inhaltlicher Gedankengang intakt
thinking intact, in form and substance


Explanation:
Perhaps the terms of reasoning, rationalising and rationality need to be qualified with reference to children up to a certain age.


Example sentence(s):
  • very similar both in form and substance. eur-lex.europa.eu [...] sowohl in formaler als auch inhaltlicher Hinsicht einander sehr ähnlich sind.

    Reference: http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/users/f/felwell/www/Theorists/Web...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
thought process and (thought) content


Explanation:
Psychiatry is not my core expertise, but I would think that the mental status dimensions "Thought process" and "Thought content" (as mentioned by Rama) are actually the terms you are looking for.

The English Wikipedia has a lot of useful terminology on this subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_status_examination



Anne Schulz
Germany
Local time: 13:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 44
Grading comment
Thank you, Anne!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  uyuni: Hoffe, es geht Dir gut!
9 mins

agree  Andreas Hild: practitioner based terminology
4 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(intact/normal) thought processing/processes and content


Explanation:
Compare with this:

"There were no perceptual problems and thought processes and content
were normal....

"Mental status examination at the time of his discharge revealed that he was fairly groomed and cooperative with clear, coherent and goal-
oriented conversation, intact thought processing and content,
and intact psychomotor activities."
https://www.va.gov/vetapp07/files3/0727443.txt

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 07:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 116
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Michael, your answer is correct as well, but Anne's suggestion was recorded at 3hrs so I awarded points to her. Thank you very much for your input!

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