Bei gleichzeitiger thermischer Sanierung

English translation: also schedule an energy efficiency upgrade

13:21 Feb 5, 2019
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Energy / Power Generation
German term or phrase: Bei gleichzeitiger thermischer Sanierung
Darum unterstützen wir umweltfreundliche Alternativen wie eine Wärmepumpe, Holzzentralheizung oder einen Nah-/Fernwärmeanschluss mit dem „Raus aus Öl“-Bonus von 5.000 Euro. Bei gleichzeitiger thermischer Sanierung Ihres Hauses unterstützen wir Sie zusätzlich mit bis zu 6.000 Euro.

If a thermal rehabilitation is also carried out (at the same time)??

Vielen Dank!
martina1974
Austria
Local time: 15:38
English translation:also schedule an energy efficiency upgrade
Explanation:
Forget about "gleichzeitig". Just use "also"; that''s more idiomatic

"If you also schedule an energy efficiency upgrade for your home, we'll throw in an extra 6,000 euros."
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Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 10:38
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vielen Dank!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2also schedule an energy efficiency upgrade
Michael Martin, MA
3 +1Home energy upgrades
Esther Pugh
4With simultaneous thermal retrofit(ting)
Johannes Gleim
5 -2With simultaneous thermal rehabilitation/renovation/refurbishment
Johannes Gleim


Discussion entries: 17





  

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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Home energy upgrades


Explanation:
https://www.businessinsider.com/energy-efficient-home-improv...

Esther Pugh
United States
Local time: 10:38
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: Upgrade, singular. http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energetische_Sanierung
1 hr

agree  Kim Metzger: Or retrofit
2 days 4 hrs

disagree  Johannes Gleim: It was me, who proposed " thermal retrofit(ting)" as answer. "retrofit" is far away from upgrade. The translation of "gleichzeitig" is missing in the context.
2 days 8 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
also schedule an energy efficiency upgrade


Explanation:
Forget about "gleichzeitig". Just use "also"; that''s more idiomatic

"If you also schedule an energy efficiency upgrade for your home, we'll throw in an extra 6,000 euros."

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 10:38
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 61
Grading comment
vielen Dank!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Steffen Walter
2 hrs
  -> Thank you, Steffen.

agree  Kim Metzger: Or retrofit. "At the same time" goes without saying.
2 days 1 hr
  -> It does. But not everyone seems to be on board with that.

disagree  Johannes Gleim: Sorry for disagreeing, but the translation of "gleichzeitig" is essential in the context. The bonus of 11.000 euros depends on the simultaneity of two actions. "Also" is different in time.
2 days 3 hrs
  -> You can't have one without the other. That's all we need to know. A literal interpretation of "gleichzeitig" doesn't seem particularly helpful here.

agree  Darin Fitzpatrick: The word “also” covers the meaning of “gleichzeitig.” We translate the meaning, not just the literal definition of each word.
3 days 16 hrs
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
With simultaneous thermal rehabilitation/renovation/refurbishment


Explanation:
Sanierung f / redevelopment, reconstruction, rehabiltation, sanitation (Bausubstanz, Städtebau); slum clearance (von Armenwohngebieten, Slums), stabilization, reorganisation (Unternehmen)
(Gelbrich, Fachwörterbuch Architektur und Bauwesen)

Sanierung f (der Städte) / redevelopment n |
~ (Verbesserung der hygienischen Lebensverhältnisse) / sanitation n, sanitazion n, |
~ eines Stadteils, der Slums) / clearance n (for alternative use) |
~ (von Straßendecken / rehabilitation n | (z.B. des Betons) / refurbishing n, refurbishment n |
~ (der Gewässer) / Sanitation n (provision of clean drinking water and adequate sewage disposal)
(Kučera, Dictionary of Exact Science and Technology)

Auch Leo bietet viele Ausdrücke für "Sanierung", u.a.:

restoration die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
remedial action die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
rehabilitation measures die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
reconstruction [TECH.] die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
redevelopment [BAU.][UMWELT] die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
refurbishment [TECH.] die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
retrofit [BAU.] die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
renovation [TECH.] die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen
:
rehabilitation [BAU.] die Sanierung Pl.: die Sanierungen [Städtebau]
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/Sanierung

rehabilitation, refurbishment / Bringing back an old building to a useful condition, using original materials or modern imitations, but usually without major conversion. The work can be limited to simple maintenance and restoration or the exterior with renovation and redecoration of the interior, or go as far as almost total demolition, with only façade retention.
renovation / The repair and improvement of a building, including some demolition or conversion. See refurbishment.
retrofit / To fit extra equipment or strengthening to an existing building.
(Penguin, Dictionary or Building)

thermische Sanierung noun, feminine
thermal rehabilitation n
less common: thermal renovation n
thermal refurbishment n
thermal clean-up n
thermal restoration n
https://www.linguee.com/german-english/translation/thermisch...

"thermal rehabilitation"
About 46.300 results (0,25 seconds)
https://www.google.de/search?biw=994&bih=715&ei=krFaXKnlE9De...

"thermal renovation"
About 18.800 results (0,26 seconds)
https://www.google.de/search?biw=1230&bih=715&ei=9LdaXOqPLYL...

"thermal refurbishment"
About 11.900 results (0,22 seconds)
https://www.google.de/search?biw=1230&bih=715&ei=0rhaXLrfFoK...

Thermal rehabilitation of buildings
Ioan Sarbu and Calin Sevarchiervici
:
In this paper is analyzed the main effects of building thermal rehabilitation, with implications upon heating energy consumption and upon comfort of the occupants.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Technical solutions in the thermal rehabilitation of buildings – what policymakers need to know
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Thermal rehabilitation of buildings
Abstract
One of main research direction on the construction field is the reduction of the energy consumption, which supposes materials, technology and conception of buildings with lower specific energy need on one hand and equipment with high performances on the other hand. Proper thermal rehabilitation of a building will lead to a significant reduction of heating energy demand offering a higher degree of comfort, and better condition for hygiene. At the same time the environment is less polluted.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277871382_Thermal_r...

Thermal Rehabilitation Technology and the Nearly Zero-Energy Buildings.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221201731...

EPBD cost-optimal methodology: Application to the thermal rehabilitation of the building envelope of a Portuguese residential reference building
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037877881...

Thermal Rehabilitation Influence upon the Comfort in Hospitals
:
The thermal rehabilitation of hospitals buildings is a must in order to achieve the required interior microclimate conditions, increase the degree ...
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-52875-5_...

THERMAL REHABILITATION OF MULTI-FLATS BUILDINGS
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Energetic Rehabilitation in Buildings: Cost-Effective Solutions
:
Thus the thermal rehabilitation of the building envelope is certainly becoming an important issue to the building market in coping ...
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Thermal Building Renovation – Thermal Renovation of Building Components
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Assessment of single-family house thermal renovation based on comprehensive on-site diagnostics
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037877881...

Contribution to the Thermal Renovation of Old Buildings: Numerical and Experimental Approach for Characterizing a Double Window
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187661021...

Building Thermal Renovation Overview
Conference Paper · October 2015
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/300144912_Building_...

Act on Support for Thermal Refurbishment and Renovations
.. Thermal Renovation of buildings (housing, public, and service), local DH distribution networks and local DH boiler stations have to be optimised and in all cases calculated and confirmed by an energy audit performed ahead. … According to the act, the buildings, after thermal refurbishment process is performed, have to meet more restrictive partial energy efficiency requirements than requirements for new buildings stated in Building Law.
http://building-request.eu/content/act-support-thermal-refur...

Thermal refurbishment of a single family home
http://www.fischer-spezialbaustoffe.de/en/grouting-material/...

Low energy building design and thermal refurbishment of existing buildings.
https://www.univehicle.eu/inno-research/low-energy-building-...

In-situ monitoring of thermal refurbishment on pre-1919 properties in Scotland
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269048248_In-situ_m...

The Living Lab methodology for complex environments: Insights from the thermal refurbishment of a historical district in the city of Cahors, France
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221462961...

SKYTECH : Thermal refurbishment of an old farmhouse
https://www.winco-tech.com/en/chantiers/skytech-thermal-refu...

One of different possible translations:

With simultaneous thermal renovation of your house we support you additionally with up to 6.000 Euro.

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 15:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 98

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Björn Vrooman: Sorry Johannes, but this is dangerously wrong (and this is my field of expertise). Cf https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Renovation_v_refur... Sanierung (here) = Modernisierung // Upgrade is a layman's term for retrofit.
2 hrs
  -> I do wonder that you only disagree to me. Are all other proposals OK, even differing from your term "retrofit"?

disagree  Lancashireman: Rehabilitation (your first choice) is wrong. Why are you quoting Romanian sites?
1 day 3 hrs
  -> How can you prove that "rehabilitation" is wrong? We don't know what the "Sanierung" consist of.
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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
With simultaneous thermal retrofit(ting)


Explanation:
I also found "retrofitting" for "Sanierung" (See my first proposal, esp. Leo and Penguin, but their number of Google Hits is less.

"thermal retrofitting"
About 5.680 results (0,35 seconds)
https://www.google.de/search?biw=1230&bih=715&ei=2_FaXPnHEYz...

The Thermal Retrofitting Of Walls, Windows And Ceilings In Traditional Scottish Buildings
Abstract
This paper documents research undertaken to evaluate the thermal transmittance of building elements – walls, windows and ceilings – both before and after the addition of insulation in traditionally constructed Scottish buildings.
https://www.witpress.com/elibrary/wit-transactions-on-ecolog...

Abstract
Given the poor thermal comfort provided in many buildings, solutions have been sought that ally lower energy costs with a contribution to greater sustainability. Of these solutions, the thermal retrofitting of the outer envelope of buildings stands out, with various systems of façade insulation being devised such as ETICS (external thermal insulation composite system).
https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/(ASCE)CF.1943-5509.00007...

Thermal Retrofitting, Refurbishment and Re-Use of Traditional and Historic Building Stock in Malta: A cost-sensitive, value-added approach
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318421532_Thermal_R...

Retrofitting public spaces for thermal comfort and sustainability
Abstract
This article discusses the retrofitting of public spaces in compact urban areas bearing in mind the need for outdoor thermal comfort.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1420326X1665932...

Dormitory thermal retrofitting to nZEB standard
Abstract
The Recast of the Directive on the Energy Performance of Buildings (the EPB Directive) came into force on 9 June 2010. One of the main requirements of the directive is to set a definition of nearly zero energy building (nZEB).
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1757-899X/415/1/0...

Germany is seen as a leader in thermal retrofit policy and practice, but how effective is its approach?
https://www.springer.com/de/book/9781447153665

Improving energy efficiency of existing residential buildings using effective thermal retrofit of building envelope
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327176614_Improving...

Belarus: Scaling Up Energy Efficiency Retrofit of Residential and Public Buildings
Assessment of Investment Needs, Implementation Constraints, Financing Options and Delivery Models
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Abstract:
In order to reduce energetic consumption, buildings may be retrofitted by covering them with an insulation envelope composed of rectangular parameterizable panels.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7385736

In the end, I do add one of Björns link:
Energetische Sanierung von Gebäuden
Definition: Änderungen an bestehenden Gebäuden mit dem Ziel der Verminderung des Energieverbrauchs
Englisch: deep energy retrofit
https://www.energie-lexikon.info/energetische_sanierung_von_...

The final selection should be based on the type of "Sanierung", as all given translations (rehabilitation, renovation, refurbishment, retrofitting) differs slightly in signification. Not all buildings are falling into disrepair. And not all buildings are reconstructed. In most cases only a heat-insulating sheet or board is attached to the outer plaster finish. But the term "Sanierung" may also refer to modernization of the heating system.


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Note added at 2 days 19 hrs (2019-02-08 08:33:14 GMT)
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Diese "zweite" Antwort muss als Fortsetzung der ersten betrachtet werden, weil nachträglich keine Änderungen oder Erweiterungen der Antwortzeile möglich sind, sobald er gepostet wurde. Damit habe ich bis jetzt 4 Möglichkeiten für die Übersetzung von "Sanierung" angegeben mit Referenzen hinterlegt (thermal rehabilitation, thermal renovation thermal refurbishment, thermal retrofit(ting). Außerdem habe ich bis jetzt den einzigen gültigen Vorschlag für die Übersetzung von "gleichzeitig" geliefert. Wie in der Diskussion erwähnt, hat "also" keine zeitliche Dimension und kommt daher nicht in Betracht. Es gibt neben "simultaneously" auch noch weitere Möglichkeiten, die Gleichzeitigkeit zum Ausdruck zu bringen, z.B. concurrently" und "at the same time",

simultaneously Adv. Gleichzeitig
at the same time gleichzeitig
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/gleichzeitig

while {conj} [at the same time] gleichzeitig [hier in der Funktion einer Konjunktion]
https://www.dict.cc/?s=gleichzeitig
(in diesen langen Listen taucht kein "also" auf).

"also" bedeutet "auch, ebenfalls", stellt das aber in keinen zeitlichen Zusammenhang). Beispiel: "Ich hatte erst die Wand neu verputzt, und später auch die Fenster gestrichen." Es bleibt unklar, wie groß der zeitliche Abstand war, und ob das eine das andere bedingte oder nicht.

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Eine weitere Möglichkeit, die Gleichzeitigkeit und den inneren Zusammenhang auszudrücken, ist die Verwendung von "in connection with":

in connection with in Verbindung mit
in connection with in Zusammenhang mit
in connection with sth. im Zusammenhang mit etw.Dat.
in connection with any action im Zusammenhang mit irgendeiner Maßnahme
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/in connection

in connection with sth. in Zusammenhang mit etw.Dat.
in connection with {prep} in Bezug auf
in connection with any action im Zusammenhang mit irgendeiner Maßnahme
https://www.dict.cc/?s=in connection with

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Einige Beispiele:

In the nZEB-project, residential areas in Sweden, Norway, Spain, and France will function nearly Zero energy building (nZEB) renovation demonstration projects where a number of measures will be implemented in connection with renovations.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Thus hydrothermal retrofit aims at energy saving and fabric protection at the same time.
https://books.google.de/books?id=DEYIlhwoqrwC&pg=PA649&lpg=P...

With higher average thermal resistance of the building envelope the influence of the heat gains on the central heating system operation will increase. At the same time the appropriate control of the heating system is necessary otherwise needless energy consumption can occur which has a negative influence on the internal thermal comfort beside the economical and environmental aspects.
:
Having the value of the balance point temperature after thermal rehabilitation the number of daays in the new shorter heating season is: [Formel]
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228369225_Heat_gain...

THERMOSS project - "BUILDING AND DISTRICT Thermal Retrofit and Management Solutions"
GOALS OF THE PROJECT
The main goals of the project are to produce an outstanding contribution to the EU-wide deployment of advanced technologies for heating and cooling, enhance the energy efficiency of residential buildings and facilitate their connection to district heating and cooling networks. To do so, THERMOSS is:
>> ensuring an efficient match between supply and demand of energy through real-time management of thermal energy
>> increasing the efficiency of residential building thermal retrofitting through advanced heating and cooling technologies
:
The micro CHP unit with solid oxide fuel cell (4) uses gas to produce electricity and heat at the same time, saving the user from purchasing electricity from the grid, whilst also warming the home. These technologies are installed both in individually central heated buildings and district heating networks.
http://www.europeanenergyinnovation.eu/Latest-Research/Winte...

Whilst those in fuel poverty are likely to witness the greatest improvement in terms of increased comfort, building occupants across the spectrum can benefit from homes and workplaces that are easier to maintain at comfortable temperatures, avoiding both overheating in summer as well as underheating in winter as a result of thermal renovation.
:
Overall, the policy appraisal phase might take around 4-6 months, though this could run concurrently.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...

Ich hoffe, dass dies genügt, alle Zweifler zu überzeugen.

Johannes Gleim
Local time: 15:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 98
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