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Spengler

English translation: architectural metalwork // architectural metalworking company

10:16 May 4, 2021
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / Civil Engineering / Metalwork
German term or phrase: Spengler
A (Swiss) architect's text on a construction project lists those involved in the project. This includes this company, listed as the "Spengler":

https://e-mann.ch/Spenglerei/

It seems they do "Metallbekleidungen" in general, and specifically:
Anschlussbleche für Steil und Flachdächer
Metallbedachungen
Dachkontrollen / Rinnenreinigung
Abdichtungen mit Flüssigkunststoff
Kamineinfassungen
Regenwassernutzung

Does anyone know what this would be called in UK English? This does not seem to be plumber/roofer as is the answer generally on other forums. Metalworker seems to be a more general "making things out of metal", not specifically building-related metalwork. "Architectural metalwork" seems to be a thing; can anyone corroborate if this is an equivalent to Spengler?

Many thanks!!
Kaya Green
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:58
English translation:architectural metalwork // architectural metalworking company
Explanation:
https://www.jamesgilbertandson.com/architectural-metalwork-c...
https://www.architecturalmetalwork.co.uk/

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Note added at 49 Min. (2021-05-04 11:05:28 GMT)
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https://www.d-a.ch/da/services/sortiment/wassertechnik-gebae...
(this goes beyond sheet metal)

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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:13:33 GMT)
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on dict.cc it says

heater and ventilation fitter
heater and ventilation welder
building tinsmith

although this might not cover it entirely

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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:14:00 GMT)
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Then again, I'm no expert for British English
Selected response from:

Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X)
Germany
Local time: 17:58
Grading comment
Many thanks everyone for all that very useful food for thought. I fear this might be one of those terms for which it is hard to find a culturally specific 'correct' equivalent; luckily the client absolved us all of any responsibility by themselves selecting "architectural metalworker", presumably because they work in architecture and this seems to encompass a similar range of responsibilities as they themselves have. In any case many thanks all!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2roof sheeter and cladder
Lancashireman
4 +1architectural metalwork // architectural metalworking company
Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X)
3 +2(building) tinsmith
Wendy Streitparth
4 -1sheet metal worker
Kartik Isaac
3roofer
Kim Metzger


Discussion entries: 11





  

Answers


27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
sheet metal worker


Explanation:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/sheet-metal-worker/

Kartik Isaac
Switzerland
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Steffen Walter: Far too generic because it also includes heating, cooling and ventilation systems, which are ruled out by the context of this question, which refers to a "Dachspengler" (aka "Dachklempner" in DE) installing flashings etc. on building roofs.
3 hrs
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46 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
architectural metalwork // architectural metalworking company


Explanation:
https://www.jamesgilbertandson.com/architectural-metalwork-c...
https://www.architecturalmetalwork.co.uk/

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Note added at 49 Min. (2021-05-04 11:05:28 GMT)
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https://www.d-a.ch/da/services/sortiment/wassertechnik-gebae...
(this goes beyond sheet metal)

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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:13:33 GMT)
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on dict.cc it says

heater and ventilation fitter
heater and ventilation welder
building tinsmith

although this might not cover it entirely

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Note added at 57 Min. (2021-05-04 11:14:00 GMT)
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Then again, I'm no expert for British English

Barbara Schmidt, M.A. (X)
Germany
Local time: 17:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 61
Grading comment
Many thanks everyone for all that very useful food for thought. I fear this might be one of those terms for which it is hard to find a culturally specific 'correct' equivalent; luckily the client absolved us all of any responsibility by themselves selecting "architectural metalworker", presumably because they work in architecture and this seems to encompass a similar range of responsibilities as they themselves have. In any case many thanks all!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Steffen Walter: This question is NOT about heating, ventilation, interiors etc. It specifically refers to building roofs (this trade is known as a "Dachspengler" in CH and AUT and "Dachklempner" in Germany)./Hab ich. Hier steht "Spengler" aber für "Dachspengler" - s.o.
3 hrs
  -> ok
agree  philgoddard: But your dict.cc reference muddies the waters.
4 hrs
  -> Yes it does. You're right.
agree  Eleanore Strauss
1 day 5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Eleanore!
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
(building) tinsmith


Explanation:
What are the activities of the building tinsmith?
Manufacture, fitting and repair of sheet metal parts and products from galvanised steel sheet, copper, aluminium or other material, cutting sheets to dimensions specified in drawings, sheet bending, reinforcing, drilling, assembling, riveting and soldering detailed parts into assemblies – manufacture of construction elements such as hooks, guttering, and drain pipes etc.), metal cladding of tanks, doors, repair of vessels, fitting and repair of sheet cladding for walls, cornices and balconies, – assembly and repair of gutters, vertical pipes and elbows, sheet cladding of chimneys in all types of roofs – sheet cladding of all types of elements used on the façade of a building, – fitting and repair of metal roof covering, production and repair of tin products of an artistic or stylish character (such as kettles, gargoyles, extension pieces according to design or to fit the original elements, – manufacture, fixing and repair of roof covering for roofs of special shape (pyramidal, conical, cupola, etc.)

Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Local time: 17:58
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 38

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Steffen Walter: This scope is more generic than the context of this question, which mainly refers to/focuses on sheet metal works, claddings etc. on roofs whilst not mentioning walls, balconies, tanks, doors etc./Yes, acc. to asker but their website focuses on roofing.
2 hrs
  -> Quote asker: It seems they do "Metallbekleidungen" in general," but thanks for not giving me a disagree!
agree  Cillie Swart: I Agree !!
5 hrs
  -> Many thanks, Cillie
agree  thefastshow: Me too, seems more common outside the UK though
1 day 23 hrs
  -> Thanks, thefastshow. Maybe its a little dated.
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
roofer


Explanation:
Roofers typically do the following:
• Inspect problem roofs to determine the best way to repair them
• Measure roofs to calculate the quantities of materials needed
• Replace damaged or rotting joists or plywood
• Install vapor barriers or layers of insulation
• Install ventilation systems
• Install shingles, asphalt, metal, or other materials to make the roof weatherproof
• Align roofing materials with edges of the roof
• Cut roofing materials to fit around walls or vents
• Cover exposed nail or screw heads with roofing cement or caulk to prevent leakage
https://www.truity.com/career-profile/roofer

Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 09:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 1651
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
roof sheeter and cladder


Explanation:
They don't nail on tiles, so 'roofer' is too generic. They certainly don't work with tin.

"A roof sheeter or cladder fixes large weatherproof sheets of different material to roofs (sheeting) or walls (cladding)."
https://www.planitplus.net/JobProfiles/View/634/45

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:58
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 432

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Steffen Walter: This one nails it, as it were ;-)
15 hrs
agree  thefastshow: If the assignment is for publication in the UK, then this term should be used.
1 day 16 hrs
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