Bandmaß

English translation: jumbo size

13:35 Feb 27, 2019
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Architecture
German term or phrase: Bandmaß
xxxx-Glas ist als Bandmaß in verschiedenen Dicken erhältlich, sowohl monolithisch als auch als Verbundsicherheitsglas.

Any idea as to what the translation of "Bandmaß" could be here? It clearly isn't the usual "tape measure".

TIA.
jackiekiefer
English translation:jumbo size
Explanation:
I think that either jumbo (size) or stock size would probably be the term actually used in the asker’s context, where:
Bandmaß - jumbo size
Geteiltes Bandmaß - split size
Liefermaß - supplied size
Festmaß - final cut size

Bandmaß, geteiltes Bandmaß
Als Bandmaß bzw. geteiltes Bandmaß wird eine rechteckige Glasscheibe bezeichnet, die in folgenden Nennmaßen geliefert wird [DIN EN 572-2]:
Bandmaß:
Länge H: 4500, 5100 oder 6000 mm
Breite B: 3210 mm (3150 mm in Ausnahmefällen)
geteiltes Bandmaß:
Länge H: 1000 bis 2550 mm
Breite B: 3210 mm (3150 mm in Ausnahmefällen)
Liefermaß
Als Liefermaß wird eine rechteckige Glasscheibe bezeichnet, die nicht als Bandmaß oder geteiltes Bandmaß, sondern als Halbzeug zur weiteren Verarbeitung und/oder auf Festmaß geschnitten geliefert wird. [DIN EN 572-8]
Festmaß
Als Festmaß wird eine rechteckige Glasscheibe bezeichnet, die auf die für den Einbau oder die Weiterverarbeitung zu einem Endprodukt erforderlichen Maße zugeschnitten wurde. Die kleinste Kantenlänge eines Festmaßes darf nicht kleiner als 100 mm, die Fläche nicht kleiner als 0,05 m² sein [DIN EN 572-8]
http://www.glas-steenebruegge.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/...

CEN - EN 572-2
Glass in building - Basic soda lime silicate glass products - Part 2: Float glass
This European Standard applies only to float glass supplied in jumbo sizes (see Note 1), split sizes (see Note 2) and oversize plates (see Note 3).
NOTE 1 Jumbo sizes - PLF (plateau largeur de fabrication) - Bandmasse.
NOTE 2 Split sizes - DLF (dimension largeur de fabrication) - Geteilte Bandmasse.
NOTE 3 Oversize plates - these are plates where the nominal length, H, is greater than 6 000 mm. These plates are produced to special order.
EN 572-8 gives information on float glass in sizes (i.e. supplied and final cut sizes) other than those covered by this European Standard.
https://standards.globalspec.com/std/1534688/EN 572-2

DIN EN 572-8
Glass in building - Basic soda-lime silicate glass products - Part 8: Supplied and final cut sizes (includes Amendment A1:2016)
Glas im Bauwesen - Basiserzeugnisse aus Kalk-Natronsilicatglas - Teil 8: Liefermaße und Festmaße (enthält Änderung A1:2016)
https://www.en-standard.eu/din-en-572-8-glass-in-building-ba...

Pilkington Activ™ ist als Bandmaß in Stößen zu 2,5 Tonnen und als geteiltes Bandmaß in Stößen zu 2 Tonnen vorzugsweise per Innenlader lieferbar.
https://www.pilkington.com/resources/basisglaser_2014_2015_f...

Activ Optitherm™ S4 products in annealed form are available in jumbo and split sizes in thicknesses from 4 mm to 10 mm. Jumbo and split sizes are only available in batches of 2.5 tonnes.
https://www.ribaproductselector.com/Product.aspx?ci=5837&pr=...

available in jumbo size 6000 x 3210 mm
https://www.pilkington.com/en/global/products/product-catego...

Das Glas ist in den Dicken 6 und 8 mm als Bandmaß (6,00 m × 3,21 m) erhältlich.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=8xd4XLi-M5G8gweRoq_YCg&q=...
The glass is available in [thicknesses] 6 and 8 mm thickness[es] in stock sizes up to 6000 × 3210 mm.
https://www.pilkington.com/en/global/products/product-catego...

From the Pilkington Glassary
Stock sizes:
the glass as manufactured and stored ready for cutting down to cut sizes.
Jumbo:
The largest size of glass we supply e.g. 6000mm x 3210mm. Usually delivered in 20 tonne loads on a special glass-carrying vehicle called a floatliner.
https://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/architects/helpandadvice...

Float glass is made by combining several components – sand, soda ash, dolomite, limestone, salt cake and cullet. This mix is heated by gas burners to approximately 2900°F, and then allowed to cool slowly for delivery to the float furnace. The molten glass forms a continuous ribbon that floats on the molten tin with the thickness being regulated by the speed that the glass is drawn through.
After the annealing process, the glass appears as the finished product and is cut into stock sizes. This is a very brief description of a complex manufacturing and quality controlled series of processes ending with the stock glass product.
Firman Glass takes this stock glass in mainly 6000 x 3210mm sheets
and produces a wide range of processed toughened glass products for the architectural glass sector, including back painted glass for the kitchen and bathroom fit-out market, also supplying fire resistant glass products from most of the major European manufacturers.
https://www.fca-magazine.com/features/specification-spotligh...

Float glass is usually manufactured in thicknesses between 2 to 19 millimetres and after cooling is cut into jumbo sheet stock sizes of 3.21m x 6 m.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=D-LmaaA1Jq8C&pg=PA38&dq=...

4.3 JUMBO GLASS PANES
The float process typically produces glass panes of 6 metres long x 3.21 metres wide, which are referred to as a jumbo pane.
https://www.arup.com/perspectives/publications/research/sect...
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Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:28
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Thanks to everyone for their excellent and detailed suggestions!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2jumbo size
Alison MacG
3 -1Glass pane
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Glass pane


Explanation:
I think this is what is meant here.


    https://www.interpane.com/news/designglas-im-moebel-und-innenausbau.html
Sarah Lewis-Morgan
Germany
Local time: 02:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Steffen Walter: Not quite, according to further research (see discussion and refs. below).
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1 day 6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
jumbo size


Explanation:
I think that either jumbo (size) or stock size would probably be the term actually used in the asker’s context, where:
Bandmaß - jumbo size
Geteiltes Bandmaß - split size
Liefermaß - supplied size
Festmaß - final cut size

Bandmaß, geteiltes Bandmaß
Als Bandmaß bzw. geteiltes Bandmaß wird eine rechteckige Glasscheibe bezeichnet, die in folgenden Nennmaßen geliefert wird [DIN EN 572-2]:
Bandmaß:
Länge H: 4500, 5100 oder 6000 mm
Breite B: 3210 mm (3150 mm in Ausnahmefällen)
geteiltes Bandmaß:
Länge H: 1000 bis 2550 mm
Breite B: 3210 mm (3150 mm in Ausnahmefällen)
Liefermaß
Als Liefermaß wird eine rechteckige Glasscheibe bezeichnet, die nicht als Bandmaß oder geteiltes Bandmaß, sondern als Halbzeug zur weiteren Verarbeitung und/oder auf Festmaß geschnitten geliefert wird. [DIN EN 572-8]
Festmaß
Als Festmaß wird eine rechteckige Glasscheibe bezeichnet, die auf die für den Einbau oder die Weiterverarbeitung zu einem Endprodukt erforderlichen Maße zugeschnitten wurde. Die kleinste Kantenlänge eines Festmaßes darf nicht kleiner als 100 mm, die Fläche nicht kleiner als 0,05 m² sein [DIN EN 572-8]
http://www.glas-steenebruegge.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/...

CEN - EN 572-2
Glass in building - Basic soda lime silicate glass products - Part 2: Float glass
This European Standard applies only to float glass supplied in jumbo sizes (see Note 1), split sizes (see Note 2) and oversize plates (see Note 3).
NOTE 1 Jumbo sizes - PLF (plateau largeur de fabrication) - Bandmasse.
NOTE 2 Split sizes - DLF (dimension largeur de fabrication) - Geteilte Bandmasse.
NOTE 3 Oversize plates - these are plates where the nominal length, H, is greater than 6 000 mm. These plates are produced to special order.
EN 572-8 gives information on float glass in sizes (i.e. supplied and final cut sizes) other than those covered by this European Standard.
https://standards.globalspec.com/std/1534688/EN 572-2

DIN EN 572-8
Glass in building - Basic soda-lime silicate glass products - Part 8: Supplied and final cut sizes (includes Amendment A1:2016)
Glas im Bauwesen - Basiserzeugnisse aus Kalk-Natronsilicatglas - Teil 8: Liefermaße und Festmaße (enthält Änderung A1:2016)
https://www.en-standard.eu/din-en-572-8-glass-in-building-ba...

Pilkington Activ™ ist als Bandmaß in Stößen zu 2,5 Tonnen und als geteiltes Bandmaß in Stößen zu 2 Tonnen vorzugsweise per Innenlader lieferbar.
https://www.pilkington.com/resources/basisglaser_2014_2015_f...

Activ Optitherm™ S4 products in annealed form are available in jumbo and split sizes in thicknesses from 4 mm to 10 mm. Jumbo and split sizes are only available in batches of 2.5 tonnes.
https://www.ribaproductselector.com/Product.aspx?ci=5837&pr=...

available in jumbo size 6000 x 3210 mm
https://www.pilkington.com/en/global/products/product-catego...

Das Glas ist in den Dicken 6 und 8 mm als Bandmaß (6,00 m × 3,21 m) erhältlich.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=8xd4XLi-M5G8gweRoq_YCg&q=...
The glass is available in [thicknesses] 6 and 8 mm thickness[es] in stock sizes up to 6000 × 3210 mm.
https://www.pilkington.com/en/global/products/product-catego...

From the Pilkington Glassary
Stock sizes:
the glass as manufactured and stored ready for cutting down to cut sizes.
Jumbo:
The largest size of glass we supply e.g. 6000mm x 3210mm. Usually delivered in 20 tonne loads on a special glass-carrying vehicle called a floatliner.
https://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/architects/helpandadvice...

Float glass is made by combining several components – sand, soda ash, dolomite, limestone, salt cake and cullet. This mix is heated by gas burners to approximately 2900°F, and then allowed to cool slowly for delivery to the float furnace. The molten glass forms a continuous ribbon that floats on the molten tin with the thickness being regulated by the speed that the glass is drawn through.
After the annealing process, the glass appears as the finished product and is cut into stock sizes. This is a very brief description of a complex manufacturing and quality controlled series of processes ending with the stock glass product.
Firman Glass takes this stock glass in mainly 6000 x 3210mm sheets
and produces a wide range of processed toughened glass products for the architectural glass sector, including back painted glass for the kitchen and bathroom fit-out market, also supplying fire resistant glass products from most of the major European manufacturers.
https://www.fca-magazine.com/features/specification-spotligh...

Float glass is usually manufactured in thicknesses between 2 to 19 millimetres and after cooling is cut into jumbo sheet stock sizes of 3.21m x 6 m.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=D-LmaaA1Jq8C&pg=PA38&dq=...

4.3 JUMBO GLASS PANES
The float process typically produces glass panes of 6 metres long x 3.21 metres wide, which are referred to as a jumbo pane.
https://www.arup.com/perspectives/publications/research/sect...

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for their excellent and detailed suggestions!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Björn Vrooman: Superb research. Trade publication: https://issuu.com/wirtschaftsverlag/docs/gl_0517 See p. 25. Links to a company and on its website, it says Bandmaß (in stock): https://glassolutions.at/de-at/anwendungen/zuschnitt Cf https://supertuff.co.uk/distribution
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Björn (also for the additional links)

agree  Steffen Walter: Thank you for these insights.
2 days 14 hrs
  -> Thanks, Steffen
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Reference comments


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Reference information:
http://www.glas-natter.de/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Merkblae... (DE) and
https://www.guardianglass.com/cs/groups/guardianeurope/docum... (EN)

See pages 12 and 13 of this manual for "endloses (Glas)band/Endlosband" vs. "infinite (glass) ribbon", which confirms Tony's and Phil's hunch that "ribbon" is the term of art in this context (although I think "continuous" is used more commonly than "infinite").

Steffen Walter
Germany
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 210
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