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Oct 4, 2010 14:49
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des parties au tout et du tout aux parties

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This seems to be a set phrase but I can't find an English equivalent anywhere. I don't think context is of much use here - it is in a philosophical text talking about architecture:

Le projet se concevant dans une continuité, un continuum des parties au tout et du tout aux parties, pas uniquement dans un montage d'objets mais dans un systeme dynamique où tout agit sur tout ...

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from the parts to the whole and from the whole to the parts

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don is bilateral (a < > b), that is, we go back and forth from the parts to the whole and from the whole to the parts. The relation here might be seen as ...
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go from the parts to the whole and from the whole to the parts. He suggests (2006) that the project of a communicating organization should break into the ...
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agree Melissa McMahon : The most straightforward translation is the best here I think.
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agree Kevin Pendergast : Definitely not a good idea to stray from the terms 'part' and 'whole'
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from elements to ensemble and vice-versa

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agree Verginia Ophof
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agree amanda solymosi
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parts interacting/intertwined with each other

Hello,

I think they could have also said "des parties allant au tout et du tout aux parties". The idea, imho, is just that all the parts of intertwined in the sense they do not act independent of each other.

au tout et du tout = to the whole and of the whole (intertwined?)

It's not a very common expression, imho.

I hope this helps.
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part-to-whole and whole-to-part

With or without hyphens.

"and was piloted during the project by social work and architecture, departments. ... However such learning is 'part to whole' – the SIMPLE ... for 'whole to part' learning, and for learning about legal process. ..."
www.ukcle.ac.uk/projects/past-projects/simpleupdate/ -

"South of this lies the unique architectural development of Ardoch, .... much practice as possible in carrying out whole-to-part and part-to-whole thinking. ..."
strathprints.strath.ac.uk/700/1/strathprints000700.doc

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"In their traineeship, the students will be asked to undertake tasks that demand a more holistic understanding of legal process and legal procedure. ... not only with a sufficient knowledge of the parts of a transaction - which letter is sent to whom, what it should contain, for instance - but also a holistic knowledge of the whole transaction. ... It therefore makes sense to give them as much practice as possible in carrying out whole-to-part and part-to-whole thinking."
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/elj/jilt/2007_1/maharg...
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agree Imanol : de la partie au tout : démarche inductive (inductive reasoning) ; du tout à la partie : démarche déductive (deductive reasoning)
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Thanks Imanol - exactly.
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where the components are one with the whole and the whole one with the components

I think the clue lies in the word "continuum". If you take the definintion in Webster's Online Dictionary:

"A continuous nonspatial whole or extent or succession in which no part or portion is distinct or distinguishable from adjacent parts."
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/contin...

then it is basically saying "a continuum of the individual components and the whole" (which would be another, shorter way of translating it).
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Part-whole relationships

These terms are commonly used in talking about dynamic systems where the parts interact with each other and with the whole in a way that is different from a mechanical system. The model is the dialectic between part (organ) and whole (animal) in a living organism. Made famous by Hegel, and this link to a kind of "crib notes" in dialectical thinking may be useful: http://tinyurl.com/23fo99j
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