ornements

English translation: ornamentation or embellishment

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French term or phrase:ornements
English translation:ornamentation or embellishment
Entered by: Yvonne Gallagher

09:02 Apr 17, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Music / performing arts - dance
French term or phrase: ornements
Hi,
Can anyone help me with the meaning of "ornements" here?

From a description of a dance show by Andrew Skeels

Très baroque mais hip hop, elle convoque des compositeurs comme Albinoni, Vivaldi et Haendel pour articuler un hybride chorégraphique entre tension et relâchement avec beaucoup d’ornements

Thanks
Idna
Local time: 15:22
ornaments or embellishments
Explanation:
https://ask.audio/articles/music-theory-ornaments-and-embell...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornament_(music)

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http://www.cosmovisions.com/musiOrnement.htm

http://musicofyesterday.com/historical-music-theory/list-and...

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in this context you could also say

"with a lot of ornamentation"

https://www.britannica.com/art/ornamentation-music

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Glad to have helped. Yes, "ornamentation" works best both for music and choreography
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 14:22
Grading comment
Thanks to all for your comments. I went with ornamentation.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +7ornaments or embellishments
Yvonne Gallagher
3frills
David Vaughn


  

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frills


Explanation:
Dancers do wear costumes and other ornaments. The text refers to the choreographic style, not the music. I would consider – depending on the style of the author elsewhere – "frills".

Gallagy's suggestion of Embellishment (perhaps the singular is better) would be better than ornamentation, avoiding some of the most obvious ambiguity.

David Vaughn
Local time: 15:22
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 201
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Asker: Thanks for your input.

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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
ornaments or embellishments


Explanation:
https://ask.audio/articles/music-theory-ornaments-and-embell...

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Note added at 28 mins (2017-04-17 09:31:10 GMT)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornament_(music)

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Note added at 31 mins (2017-04-17 09:33:57 GMT)
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http://www.cosmovisions.com/musiOrnement.htm

http://musicofyesterday.com/historical-music-theory/list-and...

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Note added at 33 mins (2017-04-17 09:35:50 GMT)
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in this context you could also say

"with a lot of ornamentation"

https://www.britannica.com/art/ornamentation-music

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Note added at 1 day23 hrs (2017-04-19 08:47:03 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped. Yes, "ornamentation" works best both for music and choreography

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 14:22
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Thanks to all for your comments. I went with ornamentation.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: ornamentation rather than ornaments. it's the first thing came to mind in the context.
26 mins
  -> Thanks yes, in this context I'd use "ornamentation" as well

agree  philgoddard: Agree with writeaway.
47 mins
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Ornaments or ornamentation. (12 years of piano lessons and 8 years of symphony orchestra on bassoon in the UK). Embellishments is rather more an explanation of ornamentation than the term I've ever been familiar with.
51 mins
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  Mair A-W (PhD)
1 hr
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  Victoria Britten
3 hrs
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  Verginia Ophof
3 hrs
  -> Thanks:-)

agree  mrrafe: Nikki, je preferais embellishments because ornamentation is MORE abstract, not less, and indeed cannot be plural like ornements in this context. Ornamentation is less an object and more an artistic technique/praxis.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks:-)
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