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sous-groupe d’analyse restreint

English translation: an artifact of analysing a restricted sub-group

18:20 Oct 10, 2005
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French term or phrase: sous-groupe d’analyse restreint
Est-ce que c’est un artifice d’un sous-groupe d’analyse restreint ou est-ce qu’il y a des raisons pharmacocinétiques impliquées?
(about the surprising results of a pharmaceutical study)

small analysis subset? limited analysis subset?
none of the above?

TIA!
Sandra C.
France
Local time: 09:52
English translation:an artifact of analysing a restricted sub-group
Explanation:
What is being suggested here is that the surprising result may have resulted from restricting the analysis to too small a sub-group, or possibly of the way in which the sub-group was selected--it's not made clear.

A couple of others have got the right idea; I'm just suggesting an idiomatic way of formulating it.
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Richard Benham
France
Local time: 09:52
Grading comment
I like the way you put it, Richard, thank you.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2limited or restricted subgroup analysis or subgroup analysis of a restricted number of x
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4 +2an artifact of analysing a restricted sub-group
Richard Benham
4 +1analysis of a smaller subgroup
Georges Tocco
5 -1restrained analysis subgroup
dutulina (X)


Discussion entries: 1





  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
sous-groupe d’analyse restreint
limited or restricted subgroup analysis or subgroup analysis of a restricted number of x


Explanation:
if yoy know what it is in the group...you can it..

In subgroup analysis, there were increases in medial tibial bone area in all
offspring subgroups, ... If the analysis was restricted to those over 45 years, ...
ard.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/63/10/1255 - Similar pages

Stats: Subgroup analysis (December 21, 2004)
Subgroup analysis (December 21, 2004). A recently published trial shows a logical
... There is also debate about whether there is enough genetic variations ...
www.childrens-mercy.org/ stats/weblog2004/SubgroupAnalysis.asp - 8k - Cached - Similar pages


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Note added at 6 mins (2005-10-10 18:27:09 GMT)
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In my example: they say if the analysis was restricted to those over 45 years

so presumably: restricted subgroup analysis would work

so would: subgroup analysis restricted to x..meaning only those factors are being analyzed..

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Note added at 8 mins (2005-10-10 18:28:27 GMT)
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I would say Group: ie the group of patients or subject selected for a trial...and sub-group is one taken from that...I wouldn't use Sets and subsets

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 3

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Georges Tocco
1 hr
agree  Charlie Bavington: I agree with those suggestions where it's clear that it's the group that is restricted/limited (as the Fr does, restreint for group not restreinte for analysis) but not those where it's ambiguous (e.g. restricted subgroup analysis)
6 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
sous-groupe d’analyse restreint
analysis of a smaller subgroup


Explanation:
same explanation as Jane

Georges Tocco
Italy
Local time: 09:52
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charlie Bavington: or limited subgroup - the key thing here is that restreint is qualifying the subgroup not the analysis, otherwise it would be "restreinte", so the English needs to make that clear, which this answer does.
4 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
sous-groupe d’analyse restreint
restrained analysis subgroup


Explanation:
The analysis is meant to observe a limited nomber of certain elements.

dutulina (X)
Local time: 10:52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Richard Benham: "Restrained" is just wrong here.
7 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
un artifice d’un sous-groupe d’analyse restreint
an artifact of analysing a restricted sub-group


Explanation:
What is being suggested here is that the surprising result may have resulted from restricting the analysis to too small a sub-group, or possibly of the way in which the sub-group was selected--it's not made clear.

A couple of others have got the right idea; I'm just suggesting an idiomatic way of formulating it.

Richard Benham
France
Local time: 09:52
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I like the way you put it, Richard, thank you.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Dr Sue Levy (X)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks.
agree  Ford Prefect: The method of selecting the sub group is at least implicitly at fault - provided there was selection applied. As Richard says we can't tell this from the sentence given. If there was no selection the suggestion is the result is a "statistical" artifact.
5 hrs
  -> Yes. Could either be the manner of selection, or maybe the selected subgroup was too small for the results to be significant.
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