set up

20:35 Sep 17, 2017
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Ships, Sailing, Maritime / LNG tanker damage
English term or phrase: set up
„Severe damage to bottom, ballast tanks, motors water damaged, bottom of containment system *set up*.”

Emphasis mine. This is an excerpt from „Ingleside Energy Center LNG Terminal and Pipeline Project: Environmental Impact Statement”, describing a incident that happened in 1979 at sea involving El Paso Paul Kayser Ship
Can it be that „set up” here means „solid, undamaged”? Or is there some other meaning that I am missing?

More on the incident:
Elsewhere in the same source - http://tinyurl.com/yc8h6uas
In another source - http://tinyurl.com/ybbvvdxe
ktext
Poland
Local time: 16:05


SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 -1le fond du système de sécurité a été déformé vers le haut
Daryo


Discussion entries: 14





  

Answers


5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
bottom of containment system set up
le fond du système de sécurité a été déformé vers le haut


Explanation:
le fond du système de sécurité [de la double coque] a été déformé vers le haut


the "containment system" is almost certainly a double hull - the inner one containing the cargo (LNG Liquefied natural gas), the outer hull designed to take the hit in case of collision and a empty space between them to avoid rupturing the inner hull when the outer hull gets deformed.

"Le GNL s'il arrive à s'échapper, à la suite d'une rupture de la coque, s'évapore et peut, à la moindre étincelle, s'enflammer si le mélange air-gaz se trouve dans les limites de combustion (proportion de GNL comprise entre 5 et 15 %). Le navire lui-même ne peut pas exploser, car le GNL qui reste à l'intérieur du navire privé de comburant ne peut pas s'enflammer.

Pour réduire ce risque, le méthanier est pourvu d'une double coque qui permet, en cas d'accident (échouage, collision), de limiter la probabilité qu'une cuve soit éventrée. La cuve elle-même comporte une double barrière remplie d'azote gazeux destiné à empêcher toute réaction avec l'oxygène atmosphérique. ..."

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Méthanier

bottom of containment system set up
=
the "bottom of containment system" [= the bottom of the outer hull] hit the sea bed and was pushed up beyond the limit of elastic deformation so stayed deformed (="set") in a position that is "up" from its initial shape.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 5 hrs (2017-09-18 02:19:14 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Table 4: Combined statistical data for LNG vessel accidents. Source: DNV Research.
...

Date = 1979

Ship name = El Paso Paul Kayser (b. 1975)

Activity = At sea

Injuries/fatalities = No

LNG spill = No

Description = Stranded. Severe damage to bottom, ballast tanks, motors water damaged, bottom of containment system set up.

Stranded in straits of Gibraltar. Was subsequently re-floated and towed to harbour to discharge cargo. Vessel was
dry-docked when survey revealed extensive damage.

Source = Houston Law Center, Colton, DNV report

http://www.safedor.org/resources/SAFEDOR-D-04.03.01-2005-10-...

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 3 days7 hrs (2017-09-21 03:40:16 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

"Was subsequently re-floated and towed to harbour to discharge cargo.
=>
"the content (LNG) did not escape from the tanks
=>
the only part that got deformed/damaged was the bottom of the whole ship which is also the bottom of the space between the outer and inner hull.

being hit from below, the outer hull can only bend "up".

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 14 days (2017-10-02 13:36:56 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

"déformé vers le haut" as confirmed by:

"The impact caused some upward movement of the inner hull supporting the membrane cargo containment system but the membrane remained intact and no cargo was lost."

http://www.giignl.org/sites/default/files/PUBLIC_AREA/Public...


"This was a membrane ship, so pushing up the outer hull undoubtedly pushed up the containment system as one of the MSC83/INF.3 sources says. But apparently the cargo tanks were not breached."

http://www.c4tx.org/ctx/job/cdb/cas_list/precis.php?id=19790...

Thanks to Björn Vrooman.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:05
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Charles Davis: An English explanation is required, not a translation into French. But in any case, this assumes a strange and unidiomatic use of "set up", and some supporting examples would be required before this interpretation could be accepted.
34 mins
  -> my mistake // the reality of how materials behave and ships end up scrapping the bottom of the sea and not sinking/spilling their load can't be ignored for the sake of assuming that the most usual meaning / parsing must always be the right one.

neutral  Helena Chavarria: None of the references I've seen state that the bottom of the outer hull was 'pushed up beyond the limit of elastic deformation'. The secondary membrane was seriously damaged but the primary membrane was left intact.
7 hrs
  -> pushed up beyond the limit of elastic deformation=>permanent damage or to rephrase it using the wording you expect: "seriously damaged"// basics of how metal react to applied force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deformation_(engineering) etc

disagree  acetran: with Helena
3 days 8 hrs
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)



Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs (or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.

KudoZ™ translation help

The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.


See also:
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search