crude

Non-PRO English Art/Literary Religion Comments to First Corinthians

Paul’s preaching in Corinth focused on the saving fact of Christ’s crucifixion, a method of execution considered so ***crude*** it was not even mentioned in polite company. The Corinthians’ fascination with the rhetorical ability of the ministers rather than their message demonstrated that they were living contrary to the power of the cross.

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rough, primitive, barbaric.

Jack Doughty

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Discussion

Charles Davis Mar 3, 2017:

As this stage in the game there's no point in posting another answer, and I don't disagree with Jack's adjectives; crude certainly does mean those things. But I think it's important to understand that crucifixion was not only regarded as uniquely cruel and painful but also, and perhaps above all, uniquely shameful, fit only for slaves and criminals; just look at Cicero on the subject. It is this, I think, that Paul was addressing: not just the barbarism but the degradation, a degradation that Christ embraced with supreme humility. This is where Paul develops the enormously influential idea of the folly of the cross as the supreme wisdom (see Erasmus), and it is this above all that is the challenge to the settled ideas of the Corinthians.

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Jack Doughty

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Selected

rough, primitive, barbaric.

The Corinthians were more concerned with the wording than with the message,

Peer comment(s):

agree	Daryo : gross? 1 min
	Thank you. Yes.
agree	B D Finch : Not "the wording", more likely they enjoyed the rhetoric for its entertainment value, rather than wanting to engage with its meaning. Presumably Paul wanted to shock them out of that bubble. 4 mins
	Thank you. Yes, that's a better way of describing it.
agree	Yasutomo Kanazawa 4 mins
	Thank you.
agree	Tony M 8 mins
	Thank you, Tony.
agree	Jacek Kloskowski 17 mins
	Thank you.
agree	AllegroTrans 1 hr
	Thank you.
agree	Ashutosh Mitra 2 hrs
	Тhank you.
agree	magdadh 2 hrs
	Thank you.
agree	Rachel Fell 3 hrs
	Thank you.
agree	Robert Forstag 4 hrs
	Thank you.
agree	writeaway 8 hrs
	Thank you.
agree	acetran 22 hrs
	Thank you.
agree	Yvonne Gallagher : well yes, but Charles is right about the degradation... 1 day 6 hrs
	Тhank you.
agree	Erzsébet Czopyk 1 day 6 hrs
	Тhank you.

4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks!"

Glossary entry (derived from question below)

English term or phrase:

crude

English answer:

rough, primitive, barbaric, degrading, humiliating

English term

crude

Discussion

Responses

rough, primitive, barbaric.

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