deep state

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21:06 Mar 22, 2020
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Social Sciences - Government / Politics
Additional field(s): History, Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc., Journalism
English term or phrase: deep state
Definition from Merriam-Webster:
An alleged secret network of especially nonelected government officials and sometimes private entities (as in the financial services and defense industries) operating extralegally to influence and enact government policy.

Example sentence(s):
  • It is Trump himself, under the camouflage of populist rhetoric, who has overseen the open expansion of the deep state: entrenched interests gaining outsize influence and setting their own policy agenda, unchecked by the will of the people, their elected representatives or the civil servants meant to regulate them. The Washington Post
  • “They take detailees, not the best from these agencies, often the worst, they stick them into the White House,” he concluded. “It's a practice that frankly should end, and the political appointees, Tim Morrison and [Kurt] Volker aren't mistaking themselves for the president, it's these Deep State bureaucrats that do.” Christian Whiton
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Summary of translations provided
5pemerintahan bayangan
Andriys Ariesson Harieska Prajas
4pemerintah bayangan
Irma Wildani Anzia
4Campur tangan untuk kepentingannya sendiri
Elizabeth Roberts


  

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pemerintah bayangan


Definition from Wikipedia:
Pemerintah bayangan adalah sekelompok orang berpengaruh yang memegang kekuasaan sebuah negara dari balik layar.

Example sentence(s):
  • Pejabat Pemerintahan Trump Waspadai ‘Pemerintahan Bayangan’ - Voice of America  

Explanation:
Since the definition of 'deep state' matches the definition of shadow government, I will translate this into pemerintah bayangan. Another alternative would be negara bayangan.

Definition of deep state

: an alleged secret network of especially nonelected government officials and sometimes private entities (as in the financial services and defense industries) operating extralegally to influence and enact government policy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deep state

Irma Wildani Anzia
Indonesia
Native speaker of: Indonesian
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pemerintahan bayangan


Definition from https://www.voaindonesia.com:
Untuk definisi dan penjelasan saya sejalan dengan bu Irma. Hanya saja, akan lebih tepat jika yang digunakan adalah pemerintahan, bukan pemerintah.

Secara makna, pemerintah lebih merujuk ke organ (badan, lembaga) atau alat perlengakapan negara.
Sedangkan pemerintahan lebih ke arah bidang tugas atau fungsi.

Kalau dari definisi Merriam Webster, network/private entities, saya rasa lebih merujuk ke pemerintahan, yakni bidang tugas atau fungsi, yang mempengaruhi kebijakan pemerintah terpilih.

Kalau di VOAIndonesia, penggunaan lebih ke arah pemerintahan bayangan.

Example sentence(s):
  • Istilah “deep state” baru muncul belakangan ini ketika para pejabat pemerintahan Presiden Donald Trump mengatakan ada semacam ‘pemerintahan bayangan’ yang berusaha menggagalkan pemerintahan pimpinan presiden yang baru itu. - https://www.voaindonesia.com  
Andriys Ariesson Harieska Prajas
Indonesia
Local time: 21:13
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
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Campur tangan untuk kepentingannya sendiri


Definition from own experience or research:
Campur tangan untuk kepentingannya sendiri

Example sentence(s):
  • Presiden Trump mengawasi sendiri operasional perusahaan besar yang bertujuan melakukan campur tangan untuk kepentingannya sendiri - Kamus besar  
Elizabeth Roberts
Indonesia
Local time: 22:13
Native speaker of: English
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