eloped

French translation: employés /travailleurs se laissant corrompre

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English term or phrase:workers having themselves eloped
French translation: employés /travailleurs se laissant corrompre
Entered by: Daryo

07:24 Sep 10, 2020
English to French translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Human Resources / company policy
English term or phrase: eloped
More specifically, article 37 of the employment regulations prohibits Workers from having themselves eloped or accepting, directly or indirectly, a gift of any kind, with the exception of small business gifts of small value.

(This is part of a company's anti-bribery policy. I know 'elope' means to get married in secret, but in this context??
Marguerite Storm
United States
Local time: 08:39
se laisser corrompre
Explanation:
FIRST
You can't ignore that in this occurrence "eloped" is in a passive form - so it's something done to the Worker, NOT done by the Worker.

The meaning would be along the lines of

"employees must not let third parties lead them astray from their duties"

i.e. the "elopment" would happen here if bribed employee starting caring more about the interests of whoever is bribing them than the interests of their employer.

i.e. it would a case of the worker "breaking loose from legal ties" to their employer


from The Century Dictionary.
To run away; escape; break loose from legal or natural ties; specifically, to run away with a lover or paramour in defiance of duty or social restraints.



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oops
... if bribed employee started caring ...
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Daryo
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1... de solliciter...
Laurence Bonnarde
4se laisser corrompre
Daryo
3 -1indûment remettre
david henrion
3 -1se dévier
Premium✍️
2 -2s'être dérobé...
Pierre POUSSIN
Summary of reference entries provided
to "elope"
Daryo

Discussion entries: 4





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
indûment remettre


Explanation:
having themselves eloped => se voir indûment remettre

david henrion
France
Local time: 14:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Victoria Britten: Why?
6 hrs
  -> ou "Indûment recevoir" parce que l'adverbe "indûment" implique le fait que ce présent/cadeau serait donné, reçu à tort. Sans que cela soit justifié.

disagree  Premium✍️: Je vois mal comment cette interprétation s'adapte au contexte de la phrase.
3 days 12 hrs
  -> Moi je vois, mais la question étant close le débat n'est plus nécessaire. Bonne nuitée.
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -2
s'être dérobé...


Explanation:
J'avoue que c'est un peu "capillitracté" : les travailleurs ne doivent pas se dérober à la dénonciation d'une tentative de "bribery"...


    https://www.linguee.com/english-french/search?source=auto&query=to+elope
Pierre POUSSIN
France
Local time: 14:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 44

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  david henrion: Pas de notion de dénonciation dans cette phrase
3 hrs

disagree  Daryo: a linguee search as a "reference"? very convincing ... Which one of the search results would be the relevant one?
2 days 22 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
se dévier


Explanation:
Une suggestion contextuelle.
L'idée est qu'ils doivent éviter toute déviation aux principes et règlements. Donc, ils doivent ne pas (se laisser) dévier/se dévier.
(We all know the proper/true sense of "elope". So the wording here --if not literal-- is quite a poetic use/writer's license here).

Premium✍️
United States
Local time: 06:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 55

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  david henrion: pour moi c'est une sur-traduction
2 hrs
  -> En fait, 'se dévier' est une formule très brève et concise !!

neutral  Daryo: that's roughly the idea, I think you're on the right track: employees must not let third parties lead them astray from their duties / make them "deviate" from their duties. Sounds almost like a mad street preacher talking ...
2 days 20 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
... de solliciter...


Explanation:
"Elope" se trouve ici dans un contexte très particulier par rapport à toutes les traductions que l'on peut trouver. Après une recherche axée sur le droit du travail dans la fonction publique, ma proposition est la suivante :

… interdit aux salariés de solliciter ou d'accepter, directement ou indirectement, un cadeau de quelque nature que ce soit, à l'exception des cadeaux...

Légalement, on ne peut pas solliciter une faveur pour mettre un dossier en avant ou on ne peut pas se laisser corrompre par un éventuel présent. Cette interdiction va dans les deux sens et une acceptation serait considérée comme un pot-de-vin et cette action est considérée comme répréhensible.


Laurence Bonnarde
France
Local time: 14:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Simon Charass
1 hr
  -> Merci !

agree  Sandra Mouton: Je ne suis pas spécialiste mais je comprends comme vous : "elope" semble utilisé pour "elicit".
22 hrs
  -> Merci !

disagree  Daryo: in the ST the passive form is used - that would hardly indicate someone taking any initiative, like ASKING for bribes.
3 days 23 hrs
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2 days 22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
[workers] having themselves eloped
se laisser corrompre


Explanation:
FIRST
You can't ignore that in this occurrence "eloped" is in a passive form - so it's something done to the Worker, NOT done by the Worker.

The meaning would be along the lines of

"employees must not let third parties lead them astray from their duties"

i.e. the "elopment" would happen here if bribed employee starting caring more about the interests of whoever is bribing them than the interests of their employer.

i.e. it would a case of the worker "breaking loose from legal ties" to their employer


from The Century Dictionary.
To run away; escape; break loose from legal or natural ties; specifically, to run away with a lover or paramour in defiance of duty or social restraints.



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Note added at 2 days 22 hrs (2020-09-13 06:03:40 GMT) Post-grading
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oops
... if bribed employee started caring ...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:39
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 35
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Reference comments


2 days 21 hrs
Reference: to "elope"

Reference information:
to "elope" in fact primarily means going away in secret - just vanishing from where you live - in **some cases** in order to get married in secret, but not always.

Definitions

from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
intransitive verb To run away with a lover, especially with the intention of getting married.
intransitive verb To run away; abscond.

from The Century Dictionary.
To run away; escape; break loose from legal or natural ties; specifically, to run away with a lover or paramour in defiance of duty or social restraints.

from the GNU version of the Collaborative International Dictionary of English.
intransitive verb To run away, or escape privately, from the place or station to which one is bound by duty; -- said especially of a woman or a man, either married or unmarried, who runs away with a paramour or a sweetheart.

from Wiktionary, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License.
verb intransitive, of a married person To run away from home with a paramour.
verb intransitive To run away secretly for the purpose of getting married with one's intended spouse; to marry in a quick or private fashion, especially without a public period of engagement.

verb intransitive (dated) To run away from home (for any reason).

from WordNet 3.0 Copyright 2006 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.
verb run away secretly with one's beloved

https://www.wordnik.com/words/elope

Daryo
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Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 35
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