Feb 18, 2019 15:22

5 yrs ago

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English term

Anne Fabre

United Kingdom

4 questions

Barista

English to French Social Sciences Food & Drink Self-presentation in a general video

Youngsters from all over Europe are asked to tell European people who they are, to charactise themselves in a general discussion context.
The only thing we know about this guy: he is most probably from Greece, and though he has studied as a car electrician, he is now employed as a "barista", the very term he uses himself before his words were translated into English. So, a fairly common usage in his country.
But as for a French/European audience, would it make sense to stick to "barista" or "bariste"?
To me, "barman" would be more appropriate given that he obviously had no previous specialised training as a barista.
I have no knowledge about food & drink training and studies-what's worse, I seem to have lost sense of being a youngster meself!
Thanks to let me know what's the cultural trend nowadays in this respect.

Proposed translations (French)

4 +5	barista	FX Fraipont (X)
4 +2	barman	Tony M

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Non-PRO (2): GILLES MEUNIER, Yvonne Gallagher

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Discussion

Valérie Ourset Feb 20, 2019: Avec plaisir, Nathalie!
Anne Fabre (asker) Feb 20, 2019: Un grand merci Valérie !
Valérie Ourset Feb 18, 2019: Yes! My reply to your question. You see it and hear it in the media. It's fashionable :-)
Anne Fabre (asker) Feb 18, 2019: If that can help, my question is: will "barista" be a widespread term for youngsters in Europe then? (to me I've never used it, perhaps I should go out, sometimes!).
Valérie Ourset Feb 18, 2019: I would stick to "barista" And for two reasons: first one,"barista" entered the French dictionary and is now a commonly accepted term and second, Greece has a long and strong coffee tradition so although he is not trained, he may know a lot about coffee. This is just a personal opinion within the context you provided.

Proposed translations

2 mins

FX Fraipont (X)

Belgium

26611 answers

Native in French

Works in field

Selected

barista

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Peer comment(s):

neutral	david henrion : oui s'il est plus spécialisé ou en charge de la confection des cafés 2 mins
agree	Tony M : In fact, this is an 'in' term for any kind of barman 29 mins
agree	Adriana Sandru 52 mins
agree	Johanne Dupuy 18 hrs
agree	Eliza Hall 23 hrs
agree	Yvonne Gallagher : https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/barista.113723/ 1 day 8 hrs

4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks very much, merci beaucoup FX, David, Tony, Adriana, Johanne, Eliza and Yvonne. I have used "barista" in this European context as I'm not sure who's going to be the final target of this project, maybe not exclusively the French. Merci !"

35 mins

Tony M

France

15219 answers

Native in English

Works in field

barman

I entirely support using 'barista' as in the original; but if for any reason you prefer not, then 'barman' is regularly used in FR (for both M and F!) — and I don't think either necessarily presupposes any specific formal training, particularly not when used fairly informally, as appears to be the case here.
I think in EN 'barista' still has a slightly pretentious connotation to it, which I don't believe it carries here in France.

Note from asker:

Tony, I entirely agree with your comments. In another context I would probably have used "barman" as it is the most commonly used term in France if I'm not too old by now! Barista does sound a wee bit pretentious to me too. You all know more than I do. A big thank you to you Tony, Daryo, Chakib, and Germaine & Eliza again.