fijnmazigheid

English translation: density

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Dutch term or phrase:	fijnmazigheid
English translation:	density
Entered by:	Michael Beijer

18:11 Jan 16, 2014

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Marketing - Marketing / Market Research

Dutch term or phrase: fijnmazigheid

and then in this context!
De fijnmazigheid van het aanbod (altijd wel een supermarkt in de buurt met steeds ruimere openingstijden).

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density

Explanation:
Problem solved. JurLex to the rescue.

JurLex translates 'fijnmazigheid' as 'density'

See e.g.:

'The result is the Groceries Market Investigation (Controlled Land) Order 2010
(CLO) through which competitors may attack such agreements if they restrict grocery supply to consumers.

(...)

Whether a restrictive covenant or exclusivity agreement is caught by the CLO depends, in large part, on a complex objective test that deals with the density of supply by the relevant supermarket in a specific area.'

'This information about the lack of available space as well as the number of retailers already serving the market is most important because it allows the retailer to examine the density of supply—that is, the extent to which retailers are concentrated in different areas of the market under question.' (Retailing, By Patrick Dunne, Robert Lusch, James Carver: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kz0-V2L6KIQC&pg=PA291&lpg... )

'fijnmazigheid van het aanbod' = 'density of supply' or 'supply density' (a common term in English)

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Fun with dictionaries:

Van Dale:
fijnmazig = fine + meshed > fine-meshed; finely meshed
micromesh (kousen)
close-knit, finely knitted (breiwerk)
een fijnmazige structuur = a finely-woven / an intricate structure

GWIT:
fijnmazig [1] = fine-meshed; finely meshed
fijnmazig [2] = fine-grained (m.b.t. beeld, afbeelding)
fijnmazige machtigingen = fine-grained permissions [COMP.]

FELOnline:
fijnmazig beslissingsmodel = finely tuned decision-making model
fijnmazig netwerk = widespread network; tightly knit network; finely meshed network; dense network
fijnmazige controle = accurate audit
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Jansonius: (Nieuw) Groot Nederlands-Engels woordenboek voor studie en practijk:
fijnmazig > fijnmazig gaas = fine mesh gauze
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Jansonius: Technisch Engels Woordenboek NL-EN/EN-NL:
fijnmazing = fine-mesh(ed)
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Huitenga, T.: Nederlands-Engels Woordenboek voor Landbouwwetenschappen:
fijndradig (van hout) = fine-grained
fijnmazig = fine-mesh X
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Dictionary of Building and Civil Engineering (Kluwer, 1985):
fijnmazig metaalgaas = metal mesh fabric
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Wolters’ Handwoordenboek Nederland-Engels (20e druk, 1994):
fijnmazig = fine-meshed
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Groot woordenboek van de Nederlandse taal 14:
fijnmazig:
fijne mazen hebbend
antoniem: grofmazig

fijnmazig behangerslinnen
(figuurlijk) een fijnmazig sociaal vangnet
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Michael Beijer
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Local time: 00:26

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high concentration

Michael Beijer

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density

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Discussion entries: 7

Kirsten Bodart

United Kingdom

Yes, density

19:09 Jan 18, 2014

a 'maas' is the space between the threads in a net/fabric (by extension), so 'fijnmazig' is then a net with small spaces, i.e. a dense net. I wouldn't leave the term out, as it's clearly important enough to be in the Dutch text. But you have to see what fits best in your context (where the term is used). Dutch marketers don't always understand what they are actually saying, I'm quite convinced, but I think it's our additional task to figure it out. ;)

Michael Beijer

United Kingdom

PS: JurLex translates 'fijnmazigheid' as 'density'

09:19 Jan 17, 2014

Then look here:

'The result is the Groceries Market Investigation (Controlled Land) Order 2010
(CLO) through which competitors may attack such agreements if they restrict grocery supply to consumers.

(...)

Whether a restrictive covenant or exclusivity agreement is caught by the CLO depends, in large part, on a complex objective test that deals with the density of supply by the relevant supermarket in a specific area.'

(http://www.bllaw.co.uk/pdf.aspx?page=22156&theme=pdf&nopersi... )

'fijnmazigheid van het aanbod' = 'density of supply' or 'supply density'

Richard Purdom

Portugal

ASKER

08:18 Jan 17, 2014

Thanks John. The text was a response about why the writer thought online food shopping wouldn't be successful. Also, the text referred to the fact that 'vrijvestiging van supermarkten in NL is niet mogelijk', so the writer probably didn't mean high concentration. My problem with leaving the text out is that the phrase in brackets might just have been meant as an example of a wider meaning.

John Holloway

Netherlands

01:05 Jan 17, 2014

Marketers love (inventing) terminology. English marketing language (as far as I know - and I recall having struggled lengthily to translate 'fijnmazigheid' in the context of a marketing text book) doesn't seem to include a similar term. And its meaning is also difficult to pin down in Dutch - as reflected in the source's otherwise repetitive inclusion of a definition (in brackets). I guess the passage communicates simply and better to the reader if one just leaves the term out and releases the 'definition' from its brackets.

Michael Beijer

United Kingdom

‘intricacy’

19:39 Jan 16, 2014

‘intricacy’ might make sense in something like this:

een fijnmazige structuur
a finely-woven / an intricate structure

(from the Van Dale)

writeaway

Do you have a translation suggestion?

18:28 Jan 16, 2014

What have you found so far? What solutions have you already rejected as unsuitable?

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freekfluweel

Netherlands

high concentration/strategically concentrated

18:27 Jan 16, 2014

(of our) supermarkets with ever increasing opening hours

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peer agreement (net): +2

high concentration

Explanation:
following freek's suggestion:

'De fijnmazigheid van het aanbod (altijd wel een supermarkt in de buurt met steeds ruimere openingstijden).'

=

'The high concentration of supply (there’s always a supermarket nearby, with longer and longer opening hours).'

See also: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="high concentration of sup...

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'Producers in markets with a high supply concentration are able to have more power over buyers than those with lower concentrations. In the case of a dominant supplier like the HIV situation, previously mentioned, the company (GlaxoSmithKline pic) is able to charge a relatively high price for it because of its high concentration of supply. A large number of producers who each compete for customers’ business are at a pricing disadvantage because of the customers’ ability to simply ‘shop around’ for cheaper prices or better service.' (Organisations and the Business Environment, By Tom Craig, David Campbell: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=h-FHr6ExlQUC&pg=PA405&lpg... )

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'The high dependence on one country for supplying the world's PGMs is a characteristic of a material with high risk of scarcity. High concentration of supply in one country, one region or one company is a structure-type metric for identifying materials with risk of scarcity through institutional inefficiency.' (The Dynamics of the availability of platinum group metals for electronics manufacturers: Alonso, E. ; Field, F.R. ; Kirchain, R.E.: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=456286... )

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:26
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Tina Vonhof (X): I like this better than leaving it out.

12 mins

-> Thanks, Tina! It might sound a little technical, but given that the question was posed under 'Market Research', I think this is probably what I'd do.

agree

freekfluweel: How could I not agree with myself...?

19 mins

-> Ha ha, yeah, sorry about that. However, as usual: if a person suggests something in a discussion entry, but doesn't enter it as an answer, I usually assume they either aren't sure of their suggestion, or just don't want to enter an answer.

neutral

philgoddard: Your examples are from economics, and "high concentration of supply" simply doesn't make sense in this context."High concentration" would work if it was just about the number of branches, but it's also about their opening times.

31 mins

-> Hmm, not so sure. Couldn't longer opening hours also be said to increase supply? If they were only open 2 hours/day, their ability to supply anything would also decrease. You're probably right though. However, that would also make the source wrong. Oh oh.

15 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

density

This info about the lack of available space and number of retailers already serving the market is important because it allows retailers to examine the density of supply (the extent to which retailers are concentrated in different areas of the market.
Whether a restrictive covenant or exclusivity agreement is caught by the CLO depends, in large part, on a complex objective test that deals with the density of supply by the relevant supermarket in a specific area.

Michael Beijer
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:26
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

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