طائر البرني

09:41 Jun 16, 2009
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Arabic to English translations [PRO]
Science - Livestock / Animal Husbandry
Arabic term or phrase: طائر البرني
Just the name of the bird. Thanks.
Noha Kamal, PhD.
Local time: 11:19


Summary of answers provided
5 +1pilgrim falcon
Abdelmonem Samir
5Barney bird
Mohamed Kamel
4 +1Pernis apivorus
Nadia Ayoub
1Sparrowhawk
Assem Mazloum


Discussion entries: 9





  

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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Barney bird


Explanation:
I think this may be the intended bird.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:HOobqcA5jaYJ:twitter.co...

MK

Mohamed Kamel
Egypt
Local time: 11:19
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5
Sparrowhawk


Explanation:
I guess so!

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www.birdlife.org/action/change/sustainable_hunting/PDFs/SHP... -

Assem Mazloum
Germany
Local time: 10:19
Native speaker of: Arabic
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Pernis apivorus


Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_Buzzard
The Honey Buzzard (Pernis apivorus), sometimes known as the "pern", is a bird of prey in the family Accipitridae which also includes many other diurnal raptors such as kites, eagles and harriers.

Despite its name, this species is not related to the true buzzards in the genus Buteo, and is closer to the kites.

It is a summer migrant to most of Europe and western Asia, wintering in tropical Africa. It is a specialist feeder, living mainly on the larvae and nests of wasps and hornets, although it will take other small prey. It is thought that honey buzzards have a chemical deterrent in their feathers that protects them from wasp attack. The specific name apivorus means "bee-eater", although bees are much less important than wasps in its diet.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_of_Tunisia
Order: Falconiformes Family: Accipitridae

Accipitridae is a family of birds of prey and include hawks, eagles, kites, harriers and Old World vultures. These birds have powerful hooked beaks for tearing flesh from their prey, strong legs, powerful talons, and keen eyesight. There are 233 species worldwide and 27 species which occur in Tunisia.

European Honey-buzzard Pernis apivorus

Nadia Ayoub
Egypt
Local time: 11:19
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 4

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agree  Leann
4 hrs
  -> Many thanks Leann :)
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pilgrim falcon


Explanation:
استنتاج خطأ يا نها، الصحيح هو ما يلي:

sparrow hawk= الساف
quails = السمان
pilgrim falcon = البرني
partridges = الحجل


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طائر الساف المختص بقنص السمان وطائر البرني المختص بقنص الحجل

http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=...

Transmitted from father to son, the art of falconry, rests on the training of two species of birds, the sparrow hawk for hunting quails and the pilgrim falcon for hunting partridges

http://allafrica.com/stories/200806130969.html
http://www.tunisiancenterusa.com/tourism.html

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Note added at 35 mins (2009-06-16 10:16:46 GMT)
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Peregrine Falcon

another name is "Peregrine Falcon"

The Peregrine Falcon (Falco peregrinus), also known simply as the Peregrine,[2] and historically as the "Duck Hawk" in North America,[3] is a cosmopolitan bird of prey in the family Falconidae. It is a large, crow-sized falcon, with a blue-gray back, barred white underparts, and a black head and "moustache". It can reach speeds over 322 km/h (200 mph), making it the fastest animal in the world.[4] As is common with bird-eating raptors, the female is much bigger than the male.[5][6] Experts recognize 17–19 subspecies, which vary in appearance and range; there is disagreement over whether the distinctive Barbary Falcon is a subspecies or a distinct species.

The Peregrine's breeding range includes land regions from the Arctic tundra to the Tropics. It can be found nearly everywhere on Earth, except extreme polar regions, very high mountains, and most tropical rainforests; the only major ice-free landmass from which it is entirely absent is New Zealand. This makes it the world's most widespread bird of prey.[7] Both the English and scientific names of this species mean "wandering falcon", referring to the migratory habits of many northern populations.

While its diet consists almost exclusively of medium-sized birds, the Peregrine will occasionally hunt small mammals, small reptiles or even insects. It reaches sexual maturity at one year, and mates for life. It nests in a scrape, normally on cliff edges or, in recent times, on tall human-made structures.[8] The Peregrine Falcon became an endangered species in many areas due to the use of pesticides, especially DDT. Since the ban on DDT from the beginning of the 1970s onwards, the populations recovered, supported by large scale protection of nesting places and releases to the wild.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_falcon
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and the following link ends the discussion:

two sorts of birds are used at El Haouaria for falconry


http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=nVmTsOZpEr8C&pg=PA159&lp...

Abdelmonem Samir
Local time: 11:19
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, thanks. These are the exact same links I checked out. I may have switched a term or two. :)

Asker: I am sorry to disappoint you wallahi. I only closed the question because I was first to find those links, looked up the terms and delivered the job. This is not personal or anything. Have a nice day.

Asker: Also, I closed the questions before all those answers came through. It is just that answerers did not notice it was closed. I think Proz needs to color a closed question differently so it would be more conspicuous.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Assem Mazloum:
8 mins
  -> Thanlks, Assem. She closed the question, anyway.
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