shifting collections

Serbian translation: скупина променљивог састава

12:33 Jun 25, 2017
English to Serbian translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History / slabljenje liberalne buržoaske vlasti
English term or phrase: shifting collections
The new political situation developed only by steps, and unevenly, depending of the domestic history of the various states. This makes a comparative survey of politics in the 1870s and 1880s difficult and almost pointless. It was sudden international emergence of mass labour and socialist movements in and after 1880s which seemed to place numerous governments and ruling classes in essentially similar predicaments, though we can see retrospectively that they were not the only mass movements which caused governmental headaches. Broadly speaking, in most of the European states of limited constitutions or restricted franchise, the mid-century political predominance of the liberal bourgeoisie broke down in the course of the 1870s, if not for other reasons, then as a by-product of the Great Depression: in Belgium in 1870, in Germany in1879, in Italy in the 1870s, in Britain 1874. Except for episodic returnes to power, they never dominated again. No equally clear political pattern emerged in Europe in the new period, though in the SAD the Republic Party, that had led the North to victory in the Civil War, usually continued to win the presidency untill 1913. Insofar as insoluble problems or basic challenges of revolution or secession could be kept out of parliamentary politics, statesmen could juggle parliamentary majorities with shifting collections of those who wished to threaten niether state nor the social order.


Ja tu frazu razumem kao "dovodeći na smenu"
Danica Cvetković
Serbia
Local time: 11:53
Serbian translation:скупина променљивог састава
Explanation:
shifting collections of those who wished to threaten neither state nor the social order.
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скупина променљивог састава свих оних који нису имали никакве жеље да угрожавају ни државу ни друштвени поредак


these "collections" are ad hoc groups of disparate people who all had in common that they didn't wish "to rock the boat" had no desire to threaten neither state nor the social order.

but this collection was not always made of the same people - the composition of this "collection" was shifting, i.e. changing with time.


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скупине променљивог састава ..

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Note added at 6 days (2017-07-01 23:10:40 GMT)
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Insofar as insoluble problems or basic challenges of revolution or secession could be kept out of parliamentary politics, statesmen could juggle parliamentary majorities with shifting collections of those who wished to threaten neither state nor the social order.



У мери у којој је било могуће држати нерешиве проблеме или најосновније изазове револуција или отцепљења ван парламентарне политике, државници су били у стању да вешто очувају већину у парламентима уз подршку скупина променљивог састава свих оних који нису имали никакве жеље да угрожавају ни државу ни друштвени поредак.

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Daryo
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Local time: 10:53
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ipak je ovaj predlog najbolji, hvala
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1grupacije koje su se smenjivale
milena beba
4скупина променљивог састава
Daryo


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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
grupacije koje su se smenjivale


Explanation:
... sa grupacijama koje su se smenjivale bez želje da ugroze niti državu niti društveni poredak

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agree :)

milena beba
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:53
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Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: Ostajem pri sledećem: ... državnici su mogli izmanipulisati parlamentarne većine dovodeći na smenu one koji nisu želeli da ugroze ni državu ni društveni poredak. Da li neko ima primedbu na ovo rešenje?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Natasa Ikodinovic
1 day 10 hrs
  -> Hvala!

agree  Natasa Stankovic
4 days
  -> Hvala!

disagree  Daryo: you make it sound like an orderly succession of organised groups taking over from the previous group / the ST is about one lasting "collection" of unconnected / disparate groups; the composition of this collection keeps changing randomly (shifting)
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
shifting collection
скупина променљивог састава


Explanation:
shifting collections of those who wished to threaten neither state nor the social order.
=
скупина променљивог састава свих оних који нису имали никакве жеље да угрожавају ни државу ни друштвени поредак


these "collections" are ad hoc groups of disparate people who all had in common that they didn't wish "to rock the boat" had no desire to threaten neither state nor the social order.

but this collection was not always made of the same people - the composition of this "collection" was shifting, i.e. changing with time.


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Note added at 4 hrs (2017-06-25 17:08:16 GMT)
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скупине променљивог састава ..

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Note added at 6 days (2017-07-01 23:10:40 GMT)
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Insofar as insoluble problems or basic challenges of revolution or secession could be kept out of parliamentary politics, statesmen could juggle parliamentary majorities with shifting collections of those who wished to threaten neither state nor the social order.



У мери у којој је било могуће држати нерешиве проблеме или најосновније изазове револуција или отцепљења ван парламентарне политике, државници су били у стању да вешто очувају већину у парламентима уз подршку скупина променљивог састава свих оних који нису имали никакве жеље да угрожавају ни државу ни друштвени поредак.



Daryo
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ipak je ovaj predlog najbolji, hvala
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